What are the essential differences between a real date and a friendly and simple conversation?

I think ;both are noticeably related and connected.

Are you serious?

A real date is when you're physically out with someone

and a friendly and simple conversation can occur without a physical presence.

if you're on a first meet I dont think one should call it a date, its a meet and greet to see if there is chemistry for a date.

A friendly and simple conversation can happen but its not a date.

Yes sir; I m more serious than you think..

I m talking about differences for both "physical presence activities"; I know there are differences; but I will wait for your comments. I want to know them.

Thanks for your contribution

Maybe Im not understand what you're trying to say?


A date as in two people physically meeting doing something romantically vs two people meeting but not romantically ? is that what you're asking?

Help me out here.

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A date is a pre planned meeting set up because both people have a mutual interest in each other, other then casual

A simple chat is just that. A simple chat.

I don't see any connection.

This is close but it possibly could also be a mutually enjoyable activity although there is usually an element of more than just a casual meeting.

I think I understand him. Here is my take on it. For me, they are connected. I can't even begin to tell how many women I've come across that can't talk. They seem to lack conversation skills. They don't seem to know how to talk to a man and try to show interest in him.

I know that at least some of you have heard that saying, "The way to a man's heart is through his stomach". Well, it isn't like that with me. You have to be able to engage me in conversation. If you can't do that, my interest goes away.

If you're able to talk to me about most anything, There is a pretty good chance I'll get romantically interested in you. So, for me, they walk together.

And just an observation from an old fart that's been out here in the world for good while.

Many women say that they want a man that's interested in them for what they have above the neck and between the ears. I'm good with that. But if you want to find a man that's interested in you higher than below your belly button, Some would do well to learn conversation skills. Then they might meet a guy like me that's interested in them for who they are and what they are.

Now this made me think...does a woman then have to be very smart like knowledgeable in so many things in order for her to be interesting to you or other smart men like you Charles? Most times I think that a conversation goes well when there’s natural rapport between two people regardless of how smart they are and whatever they talk about. Even silly things become interesting. Imho

Maybe what starts out as a simple conversation, whether on or off line, can lead to a real date so they are connected in the sense that one leads to the other, an essential difference being the date could be more romantically inclined than the first friendly and simple conversation. (In other words it was a good 'line of patter')

It's not really about smart although it is handy if both have similar levels of 'smartness' of course in order to have a click.
It's more about being inspired and inspirational, having enthusiasm and a passion for things, having things going for you in life. If you have things going for you in life, you automatically have stuff to talk about, and if you're passionate about those things a man can be totally bedazzled by you.
And to be honest, the subject doesn't even matter all that much, it's more your aura, the passion and inspiration you exude.
If the subject happens to interest a man, all the better of course. But I've had it happen that a man was completely taken with me, and I doubt he even heard a word I said. He was just enchanted by the way I spoke, my body-language, my passion, my facial expression, and so on.
Men like to be inspired.

Apart from that it is of course also handy if you just can hold a conversation. You don't have to be smart for that either, just be on the same/similar levels of 'smartness' and interest as the other.
But to be honest, if you aren't on the same levels concerning that you didn't do your sifting and sorting very well before agreeing to meet.

The difference is the way you feel and this is mostly -if not completely- based on hormones.
I don't get a release of certain 'happy' hormones when talking to someone in the supermarket = simply friendly conversation.
I do when I'm with a love interest. Meaning the vibe also changes, the dynamic is different.

The difference is basically what sets a love relationship apart from a friendship. If the feelings with a date/potential partner/partner are the same as with a friend, you're not with the right person.

In few words; you are right Sir. A nice conversation can leads to a next movement: a real date; if some interesting common points are shared in the conversation. To have B; we must have done A. Simple as that

thanks sir; I agree with your point.

I agree that some people need to work on conversation skills or maybe how to deal with the opposite sex. I had a guy who has never met me tell me he misses me. It was weird. I didn't know how to respond so I just said miss you too. Then he tried to play the miss you more game. That might have worked if I was 13 years old. Another guy always tried to turn the conversation to him flirting. If you have to tell a woman, it isn't working. Guys should be interesting, charming, and funny.

A date is when two person meet, greet and try to develop a chemistry, in order to ascertain whether to go on a second date.

okay, I think I know where you're going with this now.

but I think it boils down to attraction.

For example , I can have the same friendly conservation with 3 female posters on line , and if I'm attracted to one and she is attracted to me the possibilities are endless.

If I'm at a supermarket and I engage in small talk with someone and there is a mutual attraction, it could lead to a potential date, if there is no attraction then its just friendly conversation.

I think it all about attraction that separates possible romance from friendship.

I guess you're looking for a distinction between social skills and courtship skills.

You can be social with someone without courting them.
You can be social with someone while courting them.
Anytime you interact with anyone (potential date or not) you are being social.

There are limits that determine casual from romantic.
A purely casual encounter is not intimate.
A courtship encounter includes intimacy, Two-Way intimacy.

Body language is also a social skill.
The body language in casual encounters is different than the body language for courtship encounters.

That's how I see the question you asked.

its pretty much determined by the people involved and usually will involve use of different words

'do you wanna go out sometime' could be a prelude to hanging out or dating

but 'CAN I take you out sometime' would imply, to me, a date.

No, SS, that's not what I'm getting at. No one has to be a super smart person to talk to me. What I'm talking about, many people can't seem to elaborate much about anything. In other words, You answered my post with a paragraph long enough for me to understand how you felt and what you wanted to know.

I can't tell you how many I've come across that will answer me within 3 to 6 words. No matter what I say or try to talk about. They can't seem to elaborate enough to give me something to go on to really converse with them.

For many of them, getting info out of them about there lives, likes, dislikes and just regular conversation is like pulling teeth with nothing to dull the pain. I meet one every now and then that can converse with me and the conversation just rolls. From one thing to the next.

No, you don't need to be able to talk to me about the inner workings of a jet engine or why the sun rises every day to get my attention.

Talk to me about the trash you had to haul off yesterday. How your kids are doing in school. Tell me what your day was like. What's on your mind about everyday "stuff". When you take the time to talk to me I get interested in your everyday life. When a woman takes the time to talk to me, I become more romantically linked to her.




The great majority of men, they see a pretty woman, and below the belly button stands to attention. And for some, that's as far as it goes. But, there are some men that even though they are the same way, they need more before that works. Some men can jump straight to the physical part of being with a woman without really knowing anything about her. And really don't care.

While others need more. They need that mental connection first. For me, building that mental connection means being able to talk to me. For me, if you can't build a mental connection with me, I get bored and I move on. The other part is just not going to happen. For me, it's mental before physical.

If you can't talk to me, there isn't going to be a date. Much less anything else.

I don't know. Maybe I'm weird. But I think it's sexy when a woman can talk to me about anything and everything.

you nailed it charles it ain't the rocket science as much as it's not metering the conversation to the least possible amount of key strokes

Conversation is never equal to a date!

I talk on phone with a man friend often, we didn't meet online. It's. Conversation not a date.
However, we are not romantict yet but we do
Outings together at times.

I text a online man friend, we get very romantic, he's a Charmer, but that's not a date. : we talk on phone. Very little. I have Known him long time.


In person Meets for me are dates, because the Gentlemen. I meet travel miles and miles, and our meetings are well planned out by many phone. Conversations.

I am. picky and hard to please takes a while to find my Meets.
I search on other Relationship sites.