Nice, and that's good to hear about your Mother. I have customers who either didn't have side effects either, or experienced minor side effects. It's good to hear more of that, rather than some of the horror stories we get from media.

yeah, but many have suffered side-effects, plus you can also get weird stuff happen over time. They don't know as this mRNA technology is too new still. And there is a risk for sure, and NO ONE knows what exactly it will or can do.
We're just guinea-pigs and if you think for a moment and get out of the mass hypnosis fear thing... it wouldn't be the first time.
If memory serves it was the swine flu... more people died of the swine flu vaccine than of the swine flu itself. And that wasn't even a new-technology vaccine (mRNA) but a too quickly cooked up one.
These Covid vaccines are worse: too quickly cooked up and not properly tested AND new risky technology.

And to be honest, we have a lot more to fear from wearing these face masks, social isolation for too long a time, than Covid.
Lots of people are getting depressed from isolation, even lots of students are suffering from burnouts as they cannot go to school, socialize normally and having to wear these face masks. It's quickly becoming a major problem.
People cannot live this way and remain healthy. And that is the only and real concern nowadays, not Covid.

idiopathic thrombocytopenia can also be activated by most viral infection . Including mumps and measles . Curious did you vaccinate your children ????

Perhaps this will give you a better understanding ...

http://www.newsweek.com/covid-vaccine-thrombocytopenia-rare-blood-disorder-1568147

I have posted this previously but mRNA technology was being researched as a potential cure for cancer and other viruses before covid ... does that mean if you had cancer and this was the only available treatment that may provide hope that you would refuse it based on the unknown .

Entirely different scenario. If the cancer would otherwise kill me I'd probably take the chance.
Corona has very low death rate. Then it's a different matter altogether. You don't go taking a huge risk over nothing.
And you can believe that it is something, there's way too many experts, including ICU nursing staff that sees it up close and personal, and virologists etc etc. who say it IS totally exaggerated and not nearly as bad as they want us to believe.


OT - Reports from all over the world of high numbers of deaths, severe reactions, permanent invalidity etc. after being given the vaccine.
I read that in California they stopped the Moderna due to very high number of allergic reaction but a few days later they just continued again.
A lot of people GETTING Covid after vaccination, a number of them dying of it too.
Reports from CDC, Italy, Norway etc.
This is all after Pfizer, or as mentioned Moderna vaccine.

Our own director of RIVM -The National Institute for Public Health and the Environment- has warned against getting the 2nd shot as that is even more dangerous.

And still the idiocy continues...
Part of me had hoped this would happen as it seems the only way to stop it, bigger part of me is horrified and feels sorry for all these people whose lives are now ruined, or over.

I can quote the actual number of the millions who have been vaccinated . Can you quote the number you believe to be affected or have died as a result of covid vaccination .

Have you considered your country has an alternative agenda to discouraging vaccination ??? Perhaps they are prioritising government money before health and do not want the financial burden of a mass vaccination programme ???

Vaccinations are still voluntary so many people
Choose not to get one, for their own personal reasons.

Only 8% of people in my county has received it.
Large county in USA.

Maybe you could just open up to there being a different side to the story? And if you do want to make a point get your facts in order at least:
my country is not discouraging vaccination.
You seem to take everything that's proof of this being unsafe, not necessary etc. as a personal thing. This doesn't evolve around you.
If I have links to support what I say I post them. But... won't do you much good as much is in Dutch.
Also... I'm not here to prove anything. We're not in court. I spread the word so people get a different view as the media is very one-sided. I want people to be able to make an informed decision.

98% of people who have tested positive/had Covid have very mild to barely any symptom whatsoever and thus recover without a problem.

The other 2% is people who require hospital help, small part of that ICU.
This means that there is NO need at all to vaccinate the masses from health and safety point of view as 98% barely even gets sick and simply gets well again.

That says it is a HEALTHCARE problem because they aren't happy with the number of people they get.
But... the numbers in ICU are not higher than usual. The problem is cuts in healthcare and half the beds of ICU being gone. It's not a Corona problem at all.

Back to those 98%... would Covid be a totally new very potent virus we would not see so many people barely getting ill from it.
Research shows that antibodies in humans against Covid already existed before the pandemic!!
This likely happened because viruses also cross, mutate and so on. So this isn't 100% new to the human body. We already have antibodies in our blood against this. Which is why so few get seriously ill or don't recover.

This means there is NO NEED to vaccinate, certainly not the entire world population. Experts say it'd be better to vaccinate people with high risk.
Another research shows that 75% of people on ICU due to Covid are men with a BMI above 25.
So if they'd vaccinate slightly older men -above 60- with BMI >25 we could go back to normal life. Doing that -provided it works- would reduce pressure on ICU by 60%.
Biggest reason we are in lockdown is to not pressure hospitals and healthcare further. Quite insane as 98% of people with Covid don't require it.

My personal thing... if this would be about relieving pressure on healthcare, they would not spend billions on creating a vaccine and mass-vaccination of mankind. They'd not do that.
So what is the reason?

Also, if you see a graph of the normal death rate of 60+ people of non-Covid causes and overlay it with the Covid death in this age group you see that it's barely worth mentioning. A very small percentage, a few percent only.

Source: all coming from a clip with professor Schetters, virologist and immunologist. If you wish you can watch it with English subs via the settings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXYrilwwf70&ab_channel=BLCKBX

This seems to me to be promoting the 'Herd Immunity' philosophy, do nothing, saying, let the Coronavirus run through the entire population, no need to develop a vaccine or to vaccinate everybody if you do. The fact there would be very high numbers of deaths seems to be ignored, because most people will survive.

Here's some facts about the numbers in the UK. and World wide.

Here in the UK Even with all the lockdown measures and restrictions, over 4 million people have caught Coronavirus, many of all ages suffering a long term illness, and more than 120,000 people have now died as a result of becoming infected. see the figures here.

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Listening to the Coronavirus briefings from government and government employed experts here in the UK. These figures would be far worse if there were no interventions to reduce increasing rates of infection, this is why we have all had to suffer the lockdowns, to stop the spread and SAVE LIVES.

Most people hope the vaccines will both give them protection from the virus and reduce the further spread of this deadly disease as the lockdowns have done so far, all to minimise the numbers of deaths. It is the vaccines that will reduce the numbers of infections and deaths, and they are already shown to be doing so here in the UK. This will allow us all to return to some normality in our daily lives if all goes well.

FDA finds johnson and johnson vaccine safe and effective.
70% protection against Covid-. Only 1 shot needed.


Waiting for approval of the FDA later this week Friday.
In USA


Millions of doses may be headed to USA soon.


CBS World News reported tonight.




Note
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Recently because of baby powder caused many
Women ovarian cancer.

Despite my months of protest,
I got my first dose today.

I'm not getting the shot.

@crystal .., I will respond to your above posts together ..

Firstly , As a healthcare professional I have a professional obligation to educate and inform. Likewise to respect a person’s right to choose to accept /decline a medical intervention without coercion .

When I discuss treatments with patients I have a legal obligation to ensure they can make an informed decision , that there are no barriers to understanding the info , that they are competent to make the decision and to cause no harm throughout this process . That means I tell them not just the benefits and consequences of treatment but also the risks and side effects which takes into account personal medical history and their views/ values . What you are doing is only providing one sided information from am anti vaccine protest ethos based on your own personal viewpoint and values . I am very careful not to let my “own personal “ opinion /values sway my “professional “ obligations /opinion . I am legally accountable for the information and education I provide . That accountability includes avoiding harm by omission ..which can have serious consequences .

Secondly I am professionally qualified to assess and provide medical advice and education . Are you ???

The current covid vaccines have undergone rigorous testing through independent regulatory bodies by most of the countries who have chosen to implement the vaccinations ... including the Netherlands . The official information on the RIVM website does not discourage covid vaccination .
If you have other links in Dutch from the RIVM which contradicts this info perhaps you can post the links here (even if they are in Dutch . I am sure I can find a translated English version ) or contact the RIVM directly for clarification . The following is current info from their website

http://www.rivm.nl/en/covid-19-vaccination/covid-19-vaccines

If you read my posts in the previous thread . The information I provided reiterated the unknowns and issues raised in clinical trials including side effects and what is not known . . I have endeavoured to present both sides . Can you claim the side ?

It is quite okay that you do not want to be vaccinated . Curious though What your agenda is in motivating others not to be vaccinated . Is that some form of validation ??? Claiming informed consent (but excluding the benefits of the covid vaccine is not informed consent ) .

Perhaps you feel my posts are a personal attack . I can assure you they are not , rather I am fact checking the info being posted .

NB ... Your comments about intensive care units are certainly not representative of the majority of ICU’s worldwide . IcU is a high risk environment with a very vulnerable patient population .,, Many units are receptive to covid vaccination . Are you referring to Dutch ICU units ???! Rather than make generalisations can I ask that you post the articles/source . It is important to check legitimacy and understand context .

what motivated you to change your mind Rock ???

Hope they gave you a lollipop :-)

There was an incentive.

In my mind .. I am picturing rock with his incentive enjoy

Frequently reported side effects according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

Headache

Chills

Fatigue

Dizziness

Nausea

Aches

Fever

Joint pain

A new study from the UK says the clothing materials we wear everyday could be housingCOVID-19 and presenting a transmission risk for up to three days. Polyester was found to pose the highest transmission risk, as remnants of the virus were still found on the material over 72 hours later. A model coronavirus was tested on polyester, polycotton and 100% cotton. The study was done by De Montfort University and led by Microbiologist Dr. Katie Laird. Laird told the BBC that materials commonly used in healthcare uniforms may pose a transmission risk. The virus was still present in polyester after three days and still had the ability to transfer to external sources. The 100% cotton had the virus for 24 hours while polycotton only lasted six hours with the virus. In all washing machines tested, water was enough to remove the virus when the virus was in droplets but not as artificial saliva.

I got the Pfizer vaxx.
So far, my biggest fear is,
mutating into a respectable person.