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Topic: SCIENTOLOGY
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Mon 02/04/08 04:42 PM


A religion is a set of beliefs and practices generally held by a human community, involving adherence to codified beliefs and rituals and study of ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and mystic experience. ...

Religion is mans way trying to get to God.....Jesus Christ wants a personal relationship with man,and no one can get to the father except through the son.


I guess you are someone who believes that all religions and spiritual beliefs other than your own are "of the devil,"... your devil from your religious beliefs that is... "are cults,"... even though one of the very definitions of the word "cult" describes every religion including Christianity... and "are not the way to God"... your personal God that is.

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Mon 02/04/08 04:42 PM
i not bashing anyone if nothing else i fight for the freedom to believe what you want weather christian,buda, baptist or what ever i was getting bashed

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Mon 02/04/08 04:43 PM
no one said what you believed was wrong

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Mon 02/04/08 04:48 PM
Show me one thread where someone bashed you personally...

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Mon 02/04/08 04:49 PM
I have come to my decision through a personalble relationship with Jesus Christ and how he changed my life for the better. No religion or cult could have done that. God did not make us robots and he gives each person a choice, but one day every knee shall bow to him...if you believe or not.

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Mon 02/04/08 04:50 PM

lame

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Mon 02/04/08 04:53 PM

Show me one thread where someone bashed you personally...
gess you don't remember that one

Suzanne20's photo
Mon 02/04/08 05:01 PM


Show me one thread where someone bashed you personally...
gess you don't remember that one



She was responding to the original question

LadyValkyrie37's photo
Mon 02/04/08 05:06 PM

I have come to my decision through a personalble relationship with Jesus Christ and how he changed my life for the better. No religion or cult could have done that. God did not make us robots and he gives each person a choice, but one day every knee shall bow to him...if you believe or not.


I never really hated the ONE TRUE GOD
But the GOD OF THE PEOPLE I hated
by Marilyn Manson

But I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist
But I'm not a slave to a world that doesn't give a sh!t
by Marilyn Manson

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Mon 02/04/08 05:07 PM


I have come to my decision through a personalble relationship with Jesus Christ and how he changed my life for the better. No religion or cult could have done that. God did not make us robots and he gives each person a choice, but one day every knee shall bow to him...if you believe or not.


I never really hated the ONE TRUE GOD
But the GOD OF THE PEOPLE I hated
by Marilyn Manson

But I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist
But I'm not a slave to a world that doesn't give a sh!t
by Marilyn Manson

smokin

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Mon 02/04/08 05:14 PM



Show me one thread where someone bashed you personally...
gess you don't remember that one



She was responding to the original question
if that is true than i'm sorry

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Mon 02/04/08 05:15 PM
Marilyn Mansons doesnt scare me, but I fear the one who has power over life and death....the creator of the universe.

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Mon 02/04/08 05:22 PM
Scientology is a body of beliefs and related practices as well as a hierarchical organization initially created by American speculative fiction author L. Ron Hubbard. Hubbard developed Scientology teachings in 1952 as a successor to his earlier self-help system, Dianetics. Hubbard later characterized Scientology as an "applied religious philosophy" and the basis for a new religion. Scientology encompasses a spiritual rehabilitation philosophy and techniques, and covers topics such as morals, ethics, detoxification, education and management.

Hubbard also laid down the foundations and the policies for the establishment and management of the different Scientology organizations with the first Church of Scientology being established in December 1953. Today Scientology organizations form a complex network geared towards introducing Scientology into society. Religious Technology Center owns the trademarks and services marks of Scientology. These marks are licensed for use by the Church of Scientology International and its affiliated organizations. Organizations such as Narconon, Criminon and Applied Scholastics are licensed by the Association for Better Living and Education.

Today there are more than 4,378 Scientology churches, missions and groups worldwide on 155 countries.

TO READ MORE GO TO... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology


I don't believe that Scientology is a "religion" as we would traditionally think a religion would be. However, the followers of Scientology are so dogmatic about their beliefs and practices that I guess in a sense it is indeed a religion.... it's a religion made up by a man named Ron Hubbard. You know if we actually were able to dig deep into their beliefs we might find that we actually agree with a lot of their philosophies. In my studies of many religions I've found that I agree with many different aspects of many different religions. Take what is good for you personally and leave the rest.

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Mon 02/04/08 05:27 PM

Marilyn Mansons doesnt scare me, but I fear the one who has power over life and death....the creator of the universe.


laugh I didn't quote Marilyn Manson to "scare" you sweetheart! Manson doesn't scare me either. However, he does intrigue me because in spite of outward appearances he is an extremely intelligent man. I quoted Manson because I completely agree with those particular quotes. Oh by the way... you my dear have some power over life and death. You can help create a life and you can also take life away with your very hands or weapons made by your hands. So give yourself some credit, you are not all powerful like your God but you are not powerless either.

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Mon 02/04/08 05:39 PM
You have a choice that was given to you by God it is your choice to believe or not. I belive in God because of a decision I made many years ago and have experienced God on a personal level. I have the power over addiction and a peace that surpases all understanding.

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Mon 02/04/08 06:54 PM
Edited by werewolf_by_night_1 on Mon 02/04/08 07:23 PM

You have a choice that was given to you by God it is your choice to believe or not. I belive in God because of a decision I made many years ago and have experienced God on a personal level. I have the power over addiction and a peace that surpases all understanding.
i have a choice that was givin to me by me your god has never reveled himself to me though i have searched for him since i was a child. does that mean that he does not exist no thats not what i am saying. just as you have experienced your god i have experienced mine. there is a reason that i have my own religion. I did not wake up one day and say oh yea now i see yup there is no "god". it took me years of lonelyness,depression and emptyness to find what made me complete. i am proud to say that i am writing my own bible. oh by the way isn't it your god that said not to judge.

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Mon 02/04/08 08:25 PM

You have a choice that was given to you by God it is your choice to believe or not. I belive in God because of a decision I made many years ago and have experienced God on a personal level. I have the power over addiction and a peace that surpases all understanding.


Good for you... seriously... overcoming addiction is a very hard thing... I know from personal experience. I too have overcome addiction... yet still struggle with other addictions. As for peace... no one ever has true peace... not even a Christian. I know what I'm talking about. I too was a Christian. Peace doesn't come util you're dead.

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Mon 02/04/08 08:33 PM
I remember reading Ron L. Hubbards book of Scientology, ok - a long time ago. I was quite fascinated with it. I actually thought there were some good points made. As far as a further interpretation of "Western" Karmic view" I thought it held some validity.

I also remember, many years later, reading about this wierd cult (which turned out to be non-other than) the Church of Scientology. I re-read a good deal of the book again, and I still can't figure out how the book, turned into that religion?????

However, I did see another side of the book, having more knowledge of many things, and I think there was, possibly, some good psychology in there somewhere. At least for someone who believe in karma.

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Mon 02/04/08 09:19 PM

Just to give you one example they think Psychologists are bad and psychiatric drugs are bad because there was a big bad guy in the sky named Xenu that killed many beings long ago by placing them around volcano's in Hawaii and blowing them up with an H-bomb. (maybe he used drugs?)

So lets say some poor kids is born with schizophrenia, and his parents become Scientologest. They will be told to take the child off of the meds because they are bad for him. We know what people do when they are true believers in the one true religion. You can be sure the kid is going to be suffering for the sins of the parents. These people are dangerous. Not just run of the mill.

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Mon 02/04/08 09:29 PM


Just to give you one example they think Psychologists are bad and psychiatric drugs are bad because there was a big bad guy in the sky named Xenu that killed many beings long ago by placing them around volcano's in Hawaii and blowing them up with an H-bomb. (maybe he used drugs?)

So lets say some poor kids is born with schizophrenia, and his parents become Scientologest. They will be told to take the child off of the meds because they are bad for him. We know what people do when they are true believers in the one true religion. You can be sure the kid is going to be suffering for the sins of the parents. These people are dangerous. Not just run of the mill.


I never really thought about that. I mean, I knew how Tom Cruise was adamently against Phsychiatry and Psychotropic drugs and that was due to his religious beliefs... however, I never really reseached how deep the rabbit hole goes. I would love to sit down with a Scientologist and ask them in depth about the topic of Psychiatry and Psychotropic drugs. You're right, some people with severe mental illness need drugs and therapy just to be able to function in society. If the parents of such a child were scientologist refused to get said child the medical and psychiatric help that was needed the CPS should get involved, in my opinion.

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