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Tue 09/17/13 03:59 PM
State Law Stopped Gunman From Buying Rifle, Officials Say
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
Published: September 17, 2013
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WASHINGTON — The gunman who killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday test fired an AR-15 assault rifle at a Virginia gun store last week but was stopped from buying one because state law there prohibits the sale of such weapons to out-of-state buyers, according to two senior law enforcement officials.
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Instead, the gunman, Aaron Alexis of Texas, bought a law-enforcement-style shotgun – an 870 Remington pump – and used it on Monday as he rampaged through the Navy facility, said the officials, who requested anonymity because of the continuing investigation.

“The gun was broken in half and he had it in a bag,” one official said of the Remington. “He went inside the building and assembled it in a bathroom.”

The gunman then perched himself above an atrium where he fired down on people who had been eating breakfast, officials said, adding that he used shotgun shells that had roughly a dozen large ball-bearing-like shots in them, increasing the lethal nature of each shot.

“When he discharged, the pieces of lead would spread the farther they went,” the one .........to see whole article....

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/us/state-law-stopped-gunman-from-buying-rifle-officials-say.html?_r=0

Hmmm, well for the families of the people in this room this is great news. The law saved lives.

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Tue 09/17/13 02:03 PM
Edited by willowdraga on Tue 09/17/13 02:04 PM
Sorry for posting this in the wrong category admins.

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Tue 09/17/13 02:02 PM

You do realize my old name is Dragoness right?


Tha supposed to send a wave of fear through the masses?laugh laugh laugh :wink:


No make me not have to restate my position or reverify everything again.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:59 PM
I guess you forget the words "well regulated" eh?

I want those fearfully owned weapons regulated as put in our constitution.

Regulate them like we do cars, insurance would be good. A good test of the mental health of the bearer would be good. Yearly exams would be good. Etc...

Regulations boys, it WRITTEN IN OUR CONSTITUTION Yea

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Tue 09/17/13 01:55 PM


I pity gun toters. They are so full of fear that they think they need the gun and the NRA feeds that fear and makes butt loads off of it.
more "Factz" from the Liberal's Grab-Bag?laugh
Love the way you're trying to shut this Thread down!laugh


Good come back :thumbsup: slaphead whoa

Not.shades

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Tue 09/17/13 01:51 PM


Factually speaking more guns equals more murders.
Factually speaking a gun present means more women and children die in family disputes
Factually speaking more guns equal more gun accidents :)
Ect....
Factually speaking guns have been present at mass shootings and the gun toter did not save the day.

Fearful gun toters are not good guys. They are full of fear so badly they need to have a gun so they are a bit neurotic.
Malarkey!
Ever owned a Firearm,or had some training on it?

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional
maturity." attributed to Sigmund Freud

Repeating that Obama-Gungrabber-Mantra really doesn't convey one Fact!
It only shows how bankrupt the Liberals really are in a certain Department!




Why would I fear a gun? I was raised with them. Shoot not to bad. Clean em and shine em up good.

Stop buying the Nra money grab outta your pocket man

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Tue 09/17/13 01:46 PM
I pity gun toters. They are so full of fear that they think they need the gun and the NRA feeds that fear and makes butt loads off of it.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:45 PM


Factually speaking more guns equals more murders.
Factually speaking a gun present means more women and children die in family disputes
Factually speaking more guns equal more gun accidents :)
Ect....
Factually speaking guns have been present at mass shootings and the gun toter did not save the day.

Fearful gun toters are not good guys. They are full of fear so badly they need to have a gun so they are a bit neurotic.

Is that how it works? You keep saying factually over and over and it will become the truth?
Any factual statistics to back up your claims?


I have already done it on here so many times. You do realize my old name is Dragoness right?

The facts are there.

I am not the NRA, I am not trying to sell you nothin.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:43 PM
White racist created the "race card" to excuse their victimization of other races. There is no such thing as a race card.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:39 PM


White racists always claim to have black friends, like I said it is how they console themselves.


White racists vote for black Presidents. It is how they console themselves. :tongue:







Could have been a few of them too.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:36 PM



This reported "dating disaster" started out as a disaster when one party took another to listen to a speech by a politician. Such a thing is a set up for trouble if it is done on a first date.


I guess you don't read well....


In the OP, you say that you took the guy to listen to President Obama during your first date.

Was that a suitable thing to do during a first date?


I guess you don't read well eh?

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Tue 09/17/13 01:35 PM
Edited by willowdraga on Tue 09/17/13 01:35 PM
Factually speaking more guns equals more murders.
Factually speaking a gun present means more women and children die in family disputes
Factually speaking more guns equal more gun accidents :)
Ect....
Factually speaking guns have been present at mass shootings and the gun toter did not save the day.

Fearful gun toters are not good guys. They are full of fear so badly they need to have a gun so they are a bit neurotic.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:31 PM

This reported "dating disaster" started out as a disaster when one party took another to listen to a speech by a politician. Such a thing is a set up for trouble if it is done on a first date.


I guess you don't read well....

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Tue 09/17/13 01:30 PM
He is a white racist. Whether he knows it or not could be debated but I am not into changing people.

He had to go.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:28 PM




I was dating a man for 9 months and our first date I took him to the park where the President came for a rally and I went. Talked about it while we walked the park and still had my Obama signs around the house when he came to visit. He was quiet about it so I assumed he was probably not a fan. Cool. As long as he dislikes him for legimate reasons I have no issue with it. If he believes he is a Muslim, Kenyan born, socialist, communist or trying to destroy the country from within however that would not be cool because those are the "excuses" used by white racists to hate the President.

Well long story short, we finally friend each other on facebook and guess what he posts? One of those lists from the white racists about the president. You know the one about his having applied for school as a foreign student and two social security numbers, etc.... I felt blindsided and terribly hurt. I posted the links in the comments section of the post to prove the inaccuracy of the post. I asked if he knew it wasn't true and he agreed some of it wasn't but he didn't care if it was true or not. Politics really didn't matter to him, he said. That is how the racists are, they do not care if it is true because they dislike him for not being white.

He kept this to himself for 9+ months.frustrated

Our chemistry was mind blowingly amazing and I think that is what kept me from communicating well enough with him to have discovered this sooner.

And I had to put it to him bluntly because he didn't get it at first, just thought I was being petty. I told him "I don't share my body or life with those who do not like the president because he isn't white". He denied it but the proof is still there on his facebook page and he doesn't even have the one black friend he claims to have....which is what all the white racist say to console themselves.

We are not seeing each other anymore...

Lesson learned.

I am being much more clear on my profiles now.
Hoping not to have to go through this again.






Ah, accusing people of racism without actually citing any actual racists comments or acts. Go figure.


What are you talking about? Do you think racists just call names? Silly man


It is wrong to play the race card against people who haven't made any racist statements and who haven't done any racist acts.

People are innocent of racism until proven guilty.
Did you prove that the guy you dated is racist? No, you did not.


Oh yes I did. He believe the president to be all of the things listed which are verifiably incorrect but he cares not. So RACIST

He claims to be close to black people who are never around him, not friends on his facebook, not friends at home, etc.... So RACIST

Yea that is pretty good proof, some racists are even better than that at keeping it hidden.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:25 PM


Oh yea armed people never save the day that is the fact of the matter. Presidents have been shot and killed while surrounded by armed individuals.

Buy into the gun lobby's crap so they can get richer....

Meanwhile as before no gun toter will ever save the day and we will be shot down by self proclaimed armed good guys daily.....




A resident told police he was upstairs around 2 p.m. when he heard three men kick in the front door and enter his home. The intruders attacked there evident and placed him in an upstairs closet while they ransacked the home. What the intruders didn't know was that particular closet was where the resident kept his gun. When he thought the intruders were gone, the resident left the closet armed with that firearm. Downstairs, he encountered one of the men and the two exchanged gunfire. The intruder was struck in the shoulder and leg. He fled, but collapsed a few blocks away. The other two intruders fled as well. The resident was not injured. A neighbor commented on the incident, saying, "What happened today is exactly what guns are supposed to do--to protect your home and defend your life and your family." (Houston Chronicle, Houston, TX, 5/15/13)

Two men attempted to force their way into a home at about 12:10 a.m., according to Knoxville Police Department Sgt. Jason Keck. The 51-year-old homeowner said she got her shotgun and fired a round into the front door, apparently not striking anyone but ending the invasion. The woman told police she had been outside with family members when the two men approached her home. She and her family went inside, and the men came and asked to use the phone. When she told them she didn't have one they began trying to force their way in, which is when she got her shotgun and fired. (Knoxville News Sentinel, Knoxville, TN, 6/6/13)

From The Armed Citizen Archives
August 1971: When two ex-convicts forced their way into the home of Roy Ambrosen of Pacifica, Calif., the homeowner tried to shove them out, but one of the men drew a knife and cut Ambrosen on the hand. Ambrosen's wife got a gun and gave it to him, whereupon the two men fled. The two were later arrested by police. (Pacifica Tribune, Pacifica, Calif.)

Jimmy Foster was returning home when he found multiple suspects loading his property into a car outside. After Foster exited his vehicle, the burglars got in their car and rammed Foster's vehicle before driving toward him. Foster fired several shots at the vehicle striking one of the tires and causing the burglars to flee. Police were called and a search involving K-9 units and a helicopter led to the arrest of the three burglars. Foster was reportedly not injured during the burglary. (News Sentinel, Clinton, TN, 4/10/13)

A pregnant Texas woman, who claims to have been anti-gun before the incident, was home alone when she heard someone banging loudly on her front door. She didn't answer the door. While the first suspect was banging on the front door a second was breaking in through the back door. The woman grabbed her husband's .40 S&W handgun and called 911. When the intruders saw she was armed they fled to their car. The woman opened fire on the truck as they were getting in. The suspects were arrested in a nearby home after a standoff with police. (Gunssavelives.net, Palmview, TX, 9/10/13)

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Plenty more examples here.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/article_list_tag.php?tag_id=6921

Never say never. Being armed saves lives.


Ok I will concede almost never.

But I never buy anything from the gun lobby like this crap is.

Crap from the NRA is just that crap.

No good for ya, sell lotsa guns crap for ya

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Tue 09/17/13 01:18 PM

Sorry that happen to you.flowerforyou

Many on the Political forums do not like Obama and run
him down all time. So, best to ask up front if that is an
issue or put it on your profile.


Done and thanks

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Tue 09/17/13 01:15 PM
Edited by willowdraga on Tue 09/17/13 01:19 PM
White racists always claim to have black friends, like I said it is how they console themselves.

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Tue 09/17/13 01:13 PM


I was dating a man for 9 months and our first date I took him to the park where the President came for a rally and I went. Talked about it while we walked the park and still had my Obama signs around the house when he came to visit. He was quiet about it so I assumed he was probably not a fan. Cool. As long as he dislikes him for legimate reasons I have no issue with it. If he believes he is a Muslim, Kenyan born, socialist, communist or trying to destroy the country from within however that would not be cool because those are the "excuses" used by white racists to hate the President.

Well long story short, we finally friend each other on facebook and guess what he posts? One of those lists from the white racists about the president. You know the one about his having applied for school as a foreign student and two social security numbers, etc.... I felt blindsided and terribly hurt. I posted the links in the comments section of the post to prove the inaccuracy of the post. I asked if he knew it wasn't true and he agreed some of it wasn't but he didn't care if it was true or not. Politics really didn't matter to him, he said. That is how the racists are, they do not care if it is true because they dislike him for not being white.

He kept this to himself for 9+ months.frustrated

Our chemistry was mind blowingly amazing and I think that is what kept me from communicating well enough with him to have discovered this sooner.

And I had to put it to him bluntly because he didn't get it at first, just thought I was being petty. I told him "I don't share my body or life with those who do not like the president because he isn't white". He denied it but the proof is still there on his facebook page and he doesn't even have the one black friend he claims to have....which is what all the white racist say to console themselves.

We are not seeing each other anymore...

Lesson learned.

I am being much more clear on my profiles now.
Hoping not to have to go through this again.






Ah, accusing people of racism without actually citing any actual racists comments or acts. Go figure.


What are you talking about? Do you think racists just call names? Silly man

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Tue 09/17/13 12:57 PM

Many men are visual and have preferences for thin women. So, it is just a preference. Many women have preferences of not fat men, etc.


It is shallow regardless. If I wasn't good enough bigger I sure as hell don't have the time of day for ya thinner.

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