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Talk about your own faults
Edited by
VacantDreamer
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Thu 06/17/10 08:55 PM
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I spend way too much time analyzing everything because I'm so afraid of getting hurt. Do you analyze yourself? And then others? How about situations? Yeah there is such a thing as over-analyzing and looking too far deep into things, when it's really not that deep at all. Maybe you look for more meanings even though there is none, or you expect to find some sort of a hidden motive, "a conspiracy theory", even though there is really nothing there? I had someone, who thought I was cooking up something deep down with a different motive, and to make it worse, even just trying to explain myself made it worse. That is pretty much the gist of it. But I keep it internal, I don't drag others into it. |
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Edited by
VacantDreamer
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Thu 06/17/10 08:56 PM
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] 15,400,000 webpage hits with "formally gay" in yahoo search.Yes. Do we really need to get into the thousands if not millions of people who were gay atheists and who turned into Christians and are living a normal straight life now?I don't think so. You DO realize that you are the only one that continues to bring up Christianity? Religion has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Now I believe you are arguing just to be arguing, and therefore no longer worth the time it takes to type a response. |
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Topic:
Talk about your own faults
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I spend way too much time analyzing everything because I'm so afraid of getting hurt.
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Have you ever been a relationship before?Of course feelings of love can be turned on and off.You ever had someone cheat on you?One day you love them the next you telling them you never want to see them again.You ever fall in love with a person and two months later you can't stand waking up next to them.It happens every day all over the world.Love is turned on and off with millions of people.Love is just a feeling nothing more.It is a small part of living a normal life. If it were possible to just turn those feelings off, it wouldn't hurt so damn much to be cheated on, now would it? There wouldn't be that little thing called grief when a relationship ends. If it were possible to turn them ON, do you really think so many people would still be single?? Not all of us are robots. |
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Yes gay people can choose who they have sex with, same as straight people. Does not in any way mean we can choose who we are attracted to, and a person attracted to the same sex is by definition either gay or bisexual, regardless of whether those feelings are acted upon or not. And NO ONE, gay, straight, bi, whatever, can choose who they WANT to love. So are you saying if someone loves someone but the relationship is unhealthy, they don't have the choice to leave? That idea is utterly asinine. When in any part of my response did I make anything CLOSE to that statement?? If they WANT to love them, don't they sort of have some obligation to stay? I said NO ONE can choose who they WANT to love. Ok but can they CHOOSE who they want to be with? Yes or no. Oy we're going around in circles here. Yes, someone can choose who to be with. Someone CANNOT choose who they are attracted to. Wow that's interesting.Back in my early twenties when I was clubbing every friday and saturday night I was attracted to just about every girl who gave me a smile.Didn't matter what color,race,fat,skinny,blonde,short hair,long hair.I would date them. I think 99% of the single guys out there are the same way.They will take just about any girl who is half way decent.  I was referring to gender, not physical traits. |
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What kind of statement is that???Of course they can choose who they want to love.  Is someone picking who they are going to be with?We don't have a choice???If they can't choose then everyone on this planet is forced against their will to love someone they don't want to love??? I have heard it all but that one takes the cake!  Feelings of love cannot be turned on and off. I did not say one cannot choose who they will be with. I said one cannot control who they have loving feelings for. You cannot look at someone and say, "Oh. I think I will love THAT person." THAT is what I meant. |
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Yes gay people can choose who they have sex with, same as straight people. Does not in any way mean we can choose who we are attracted to, and a person attracted to the same sex is by definition either gay or bisexual, regardless of whether those feelings are acted upon or not. And NO ONE, gay, straight, bi, whatever, can choose who they WANT to love. So are you saying if someone loves someone but the relationship is unhealthy, they don't have the choice to leave? That idea is utterly asinine. When in any part of my response did I make anything CLOSE to that statement?? If they WANT to love them, don't they sort of have some obligation to stay? I said NO ONE can choose who they WANT to love. Ok but can they CHOOSE who they want to be with? Yes or no. Oy we're going around in circles here. Yes, someone can choose who to be with. Someone CANNOT choose who they are attracted to. |
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Edited by
VacantDreamer
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Thu 06/17/10 08:22 PM
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Yes gay people can choose who they have sex with, same as straight people. Does not in any way mean we can choose who we are attracted to, and a person attracted to the same sex is by definition either gay or bisexual, regardless of whether those feelings are acted upon or not. And NO ONE, gay, straight, bi, whatever, can choose who they WANT to love. So are you saying if someone loves someone but the relationship is unhealthy, they don't have the choice to leave? That idea is utterly asinine. When in any part of my response did I make anything CLOSE to that statement?? If they WANT to love them, don't they sort of have some obligation to stay? I said NO ONE can choose who they WANT to love. Meaning loving someone is most definitely NOT a choice. Leaving an unhealthy relationship IS a choice, and one that should be taken. No one should ever stay in an unhealthy relationship because they feel obligated. |
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VacantDreamer
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Thu 06/17/10 08:17 PM
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Yes gay people can choose who they have sex with, same as straight people. Does not in any way mean we can choose who we are attracted to, and a person attracted to the same sex is by definition either gay or bisexual, regardless of whether those feelings are acted upon or not. And NO ONE, gay, straight, bi, whatever, can choose who they WANT to love. So are you saying if someone loves someone but the relationship is unhealthy, they don't have the choice to leave? That idea is utterly asinine. When in any part of my response did I make anything CLOSE to that statement?? |
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Maybe you can't STOP, but......you can change how you react. I think you're blinded to your own prejudices honestly if you think EVERYONE who goes from gay to straight is gonna be the same way, and yes I know you're gonna say I am too, but I don't care if you do feel that way or not. Again, and for the last time, lying to myself would do far more damage to me and my life than ANYTHING small-minded bigotry can come up with. I am gay. I am not ashamed of that. I am not going to suddenly start dating men because someone tells me I am wrong for feeling the way I feel. Were I to do that, I would not be me. |
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People who are born Black or born Asian are born that way and can not change that fact.Gays are not born that way because they can choose who they want to love and have sex with.I have yet to see a person who for what ever reason was unable to make a descision because they said making that descision was mentally impossible. Yes gay people can choose who they have sex with, same as straight people. Does not in any way mean we can choose who we are attracted to, and a person attracted to the same sex is by definition either gay or bisexual, regardless of whether those feelings are acted upon or not. And NO ONE, gay, straight, bi, whatever, can choose who they WANT to love. |
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I didn't say everyone was born gay.I am saying there are millions of people in the last 20 or so years that were formally gay and decided to turn straight.I personaly know of at least 3 women including one who was my girlfriend for 3 years who said they were formally lesibans and turned straight.I have read countless stories of movie stars,musicians,and others who were formally gay and changed their mind and got married to people of the opposite sex. How many women out there have had some type of fling including a sexual relationship with another woman at some point in their life?I wouldn't be surprised if the results were upward of 60 to 70%.Yet all those women are not gay. No, the definition there would be bisexual. Just because someone previously with a member of the same sex is now with a person of the opposite sex does not mean that the attraction to the same sex is gone. It means they are attracted to both sexes and decided to live their live with whom they fell in love with. But is this always the case? You're making a big assumption if you say yes. Not everyone who goes from gay to straight is gonna be bi then, people change for different reasons and in different ways. No it is not always the case, but in answer to Thomas' question, with the exception of those who lie to themselves to try to please a hateful society, yes, it is the case. As Dragoness said, you can't just STOP being attracted to someone. You couldn't suddenly STOP being attracted to women any more than I could suddenly start being attracted to men. |
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Edited by
VacantDreamer
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Thu 06/17/10 08:01 PM
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I didn't say everyone was born gay.I am saying there are millions of people in the last 20 or so years that were formally gay and decided to turn straight.I personaly know of at least 3 women including one who was my girlfriend for 3 years who said they were formally lesibans and turned straight.I have read countless stories of movie stars,musicians,and others who were formally gay and changed their mind and got married to people of the opposite sex. How many women out there have had some type of fling including a sexual relationship with another woman at some point in their life?I wouldn't be surprised if the results were upward of 60 to 70%.Yet all those women are not gay. No, the definition there would be bisexual. Just because someone previously with a member of the same sex is now with a person of the opposite sex does not mean that the attraction to the same sex is gone. It means they are attracted to both sexes and decided to live their live with whom they fell in love with, and that person happened to be someone of the opposite sex. |
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There has never been a shred of evidence that anyone was every born gay.I urge anyone who believes this non sense to post facts from some type of source we can take seriously. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?i… http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/n… http://www.livescience.com/health/080617… http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregna… http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17904… You gave me a bunch of dead links and one page that was all based on one mans research that listed traits of homosexuals.Furthermore it was all based on theories and nothing backed up by any real science. Sorry try again. Even if people were born gay then how do you explain the millions of men and women that are straight now?Are you saying they were cured overnight?One day they are gay the next straight?Are you saying if someone is born gay and they are dating straight people then they need couseling to be gay again? No one said EVERYONE is born gay. GAY people are born gay. Are you going to answer my question? If someone claims to be born gay and changes his or her life to a straight life should that person be sent into therapy so a doctor can change this person back to being gay again? Again, because you didn't seem to see my response to that statement. No one ever said EVERYONE is born gay. GAY people are born gay. Those that decide later on in life not to live life as who they are do so for their own reasons, probably the biggest of those being that certain people make their life miserable with their constant small-minded, ruthless prying into their personal lives and refusal to believe that something is just not possible because THEY don't agree with it. |
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Just talk to a gay person and ask them. It is about as factual as you will get. They will tell you that they knew they were attracted to the same sex as early as kindergarten for some. I didn't understand until I hit middle school. But yeah. Thats about right. |
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There has never been a shred of evidence that anyone was every born gay.I urge anyone who believes this non sense to post facts from some type of source we can take seriously. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?i… http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/n… http://www.livescience.com/health/080617… http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregna… http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17904… You gave me a bunch of dead links and one page that was all based on one mans research that listed traits of homosexuals.Furthermore it was all based on theories and nothing backed up by any real science. Sorry try again. Even if people were born gay then how do you explain the millions of men and women that are straight now?Are you saying they were cured overnight?One day they are gay the next straight?Are you saying if someone is born gay and they are dating straight people then they need couseling to be gay again? No one said EVERYONE is born gay. GAY people are born gay. |
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There has never been a shred of evidence that anyone was every born gay.I urge anyone who believes this non sense to post facts from some type of source we can take seriously. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?i… http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/n… http://www.livescience.com/health/080617… http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregna… http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17904… You gave me a bunch of dead links and one page that was all based on one mans research that listed traits of homosexuals.Furthermore it was all based on theories and nothing backed up by any real science. Sorry try again. I fixed the links. |
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Edited by
VacantDreamer
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Thu 06/17/10 07:21 PM
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There has never been a shred of evidence that anyone was every born gay.I urge anyone who believes this non sense to post facts from some type of source we can take seriously. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6519 http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20050128/is-there-gay-gene http://www.livescience.com/health/080617-hereditary-homosexuality.html http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregnancy/3641 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17904267%2C16143171%2C12836730%2C10763427%2C9549243?dopt=DocSum |
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There has never been a shred of evidence that anyone was every born gay.I urge anyone who believes this non sense to post facts from some type of source we can take seriously. http://www.soulforce.org/article/644 |
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