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Topic: Judge beats daughter
Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 11/13/11 04:35 AM




Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Ridiculous!!
Have YOU ever been whipped with a belt for 7 minutes?????

If that is a spanking to you and you do this to your children, you should be in jail!


As I have posted before. I WATCHED the video. Although the video was 7 minutes long , the girl was actually spanked for just under twenty five seconds of it. and, yes, I have been spanked with a belt for twenty five seconds, with much fewer and shorter 'breaks'...


But Harmony, in between the "hits" with the belts (both mother and fathers hit her), both parents were verbally abusing her....How many times did you count the "F" word? How many times was she called stupid, threatened with banishment from her home? I can only imagine the fear and hatred that 16 year old girl was feeling...And what an age to hit and humiliate a teenage girl!...I can still remember all the crazy emotions I felt when I was sixteen...The vid depicts child abuse, blatant child abuse.....


...and 7 years later she lets the world know. Seems the girl has some anger issues with her father, go figure. But he disciplined her real good..too bad she has NO respect for him,

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/13/11 09:39 AM

Ya know, I get a little pizzed with all this sidestepping and assigning blame! You want to be a parent, then be one!..Know what it involves, take full responsibility, be a parent, be the best parent you can be! And until you, as a parent, have taught and provided YOUR child with ALL the tools necessary to become a responsible adult, protect and nurture YOUR child!....AND, you cannot do that by beating them senseless!

OK, I'm done now!!:laughing:

:heart:


Im gonna throw this out there and I fully expect that many just will not get it. I agree, that parents PROTECT And NURTURE their children, but they also need to DISCIPLINE their children. How they discipline their child has alot to do with THEIR family environment and social situation.


It is protective , in many families, to spank a child as opposed to some discipline that will not serve as any type of deterrent.

IN families, for instance, where children are not spoiled with material things and where taking away said things or making them sit (in essence) on their own in a corner or a bedroom are not going to deter them from ANYTHING, spanking is a better and more productive discipline.

IN families, for instance, where their child is more likely to be accosted, assumed a danger by society, arrested and abused by police than they are to be given a 'break' or sent to 'rehab' or seen otherwise as 'innocent' , the reality and harshness of spanking is a much more HONEST preparation for the world they will face than one where things they dont care about happen to be kept from them for a bit.

Consequences are UNPLEASANT, when they are punitive or disciplinary, they are supposed to be.

When families have a balance of communication, love, support, and DISCIPLINE, spanking doesnt involve 'beating them senseless' but doling out a consequence that begins to teach them about the potential harsh consequence of their actions in life and the CONSISTENCY of their household rules and consequences.

IT taught me my parents would do what they said they would do. It deterred me from doing things that could have lead to me growing up to think the world owed me a discussion about everything and I otherwise should have and do whatever pleased me.

IT contributed to an adult who feels not the least bit unloved, invaluable, violent, or unsafe.

It shouldnt be 'ASSUMED' at the mention of spanking, that a child is learning otherwise,,,,its about the BALANCE in the home, not any one element of it,,,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/13/11 09:41 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/13/11 09:45 AM




Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Ridiculous!!
Have YOU ever been whipped with a belt for 7 minutes?????

If that is a spanking to you and you do this to your children, you should be in jail!


As I have posted before. I WATCHED the video. Although the video was 7 minutes long , the girl was actually spanked for just under twenty five seconds of it. and, yes, I have been spanked with a belt for twenty five seconds, with much fewer and shorter 'breaks'...


But Harmony, in between the "hits" with the belts (both mother and fathers hit her), both parents were verbally abusing her....How many times did you count the "F" word? How many times was she called stupid, threatened with banishment from her home? I can only imagine the fear and hatred that 16 year old girl was feeling...And what an age to hit and humiliate a teenage girl!...I can still remember all the crazy emotions I felt when I was sixteen...The vid depicts child abuse, blatant child abuse.....



I didnt live in the house, I dont know what came before or after that seven minutes of their life. I dont know how often an occurrence it was, so I refrain from judging how old she is as a factor. As to the other, yes, I stated that I Actually was more offended by the verbal abuse, which DID last a majority of the seven minutes, than by the twenty swats she got over a matter of thirty seconds...

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/13/11 09:43 AM





Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Ridiculous!!
Have YOU ever been whipped with a belt for 7 minutes?????

If that is a spanking to you and you do this to your children, you should be in jail!


As I have posted before. I WATCHED the video. Although the video was 7 minutes long , the girl was actually spanked for just under twenty five seconds of it. and, yes, I have been spanked with a belt for twenty five seconds, with much fewer and shorter 'breaks'...


But Harmony, in between the "hits" with the belts (both mother and fathers hit her), both parents were verbally abusing her....How many times did you count the "F" word? How many times was she called stupid, threatened with banishment from her home? I can only imagine the fear and hatred that 16 year old girl was feeling...And what an age to hit and humiliate a teenage girl!...I can still remember all the crazy emotions I felt when I was sixteen...The vid depicts child abuse, blatant child abuse.....


...and 7 years later she lets the world know. Seems the girl has some anger issues with her father, go figure. But he disciplined her real good..too bad she has NO respect for him,



I suspect there was INBALANCE in how they brought up that child. OBvious by them arguing in front of her. She most likely showed 'respect' to the parent who let her get her way the most...

or possibly to the one who gave her the healthiest BALANCE of love, support AND Discipline

,,, but, I Wasnt in that house. SO I dont know.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 11/13/11 09:49 AM






Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Ridiculous!!
Have YOU ever been whipped with a belt for 7 minutes?????

If that is a spanking to you and you do this to your children, you should be in jail!


As I have posted before. I WATCHED the video. Although the video was 7 minutes long , the girl was actually spanked for just under twenty five seconds of it. and, yes, I have been spanked with a belt for twenty five seconds, with much fewer and shorter 'breaks'...


But Harmony, in between the "hits" with the belts (both mother and fathers hit her), both parents were verbally abusing her....How many times did you count the "F" word? How many times was she called stupid, threatened with banishment from her home? I can only imagine the fear and hatred that 16 year old girl was feeling...And what an age to hit and humiliate a teenage girl!...I can still remember all the crazy emotions I felt when I was sixteen...The vid depicts child abuse, blatant child abuse.....


...and 7 years later she lets the world know. Seems the girl has some anger issues with her father, go figure. But he disciplined her real good..too bad she has NO respect for him,



I suspect there was INBALANCE in how they brought up that child. OBvious by them arguing in front of her. She most likely showed 'respect' to the parent who let her get her way the most...

or possibly to the one who gave her the healthiest BALANCE of love, support AND Discipline

,,, but, I Wasnt in that house. SO I dont know.


ya think....
a set of parents with a weapon, physically, verbally, emotionally and spiritually abusing their child..yeah, I would agree there is most definitely some um..imbalance!

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/13/11 09:52 AM
a belt is a weapon? hmmmm

perhaps if it is used to strangle someone,,but I havent otherwise heard of death by belt,..especially by belt on the behind,,


but I do see the point about the verbal abuse, it was excessive,,,

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 11/13/11 09:58 AM

a belt is a weapon? hmmmm

perhaps if it is used to strangle someone,,but I havent otherwise heard of death by belt,..especially by belt on the behind,,


but I do see the point about the verbal abuse, it was excessive,,,


ANYTHING can be a weapon when used on others....

I can't believe you are defending these actions. You make it sound like it was the girls fault for being a brat so she deserves what she got.

I'm sorry that you got this treatment when you were a child and feel you deserved it..you didn't. So you you don't have to defend it, no one is judging your parents. It's just the way it was..back then!!!

peace

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/13/11 10:04 AM
lol,, my parents were GREAT

I did deserve the punishment I received, and I was completely aware of the reasons when I chose the actions which lead to the consequence


I dont know what that child may or may have not deserved, in terms of discipline, because I Wasnt in the house

I hurt myself worse all throughout my life when I was just PLAYING than my parents ever did spanking me. They gave me a proper balance of what I needed in life to be a rational, law abiding, respectful, considerate, kind, loving, adult

regardless of who believes it or not,,,LOL

there are no absolutes, spanking is rarely abusive, but sometimes people can get carried away and use the 'belt' dangerously as opposed to using it to connect to the behind,,,,lol

peace is the word,, indeedflowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/13/11 10:05 AM
lol,, my parents were GREAT

I did deserve the punishment I received, and I was completely aware of the reasons when I chose the actions which lead to the consequence


I dont know what that child may or may have not deserved, in terms of discipline, because I Wasnt in the house

I hurt myself worse all throughout my life when I was just PLAYING than my parents ever did spanking me. They gave me a proper balance of what I needed in life to be a rational, law abiding, respectful, considerate, kind, loving, adult

regardless of who believes it or not,,,LOL

there are no absolutes, spanking is rarely abusive, but sometimes people can get carried away and use the 'belt' dangerously as opposed to using it to connect to the behind,,,,lol

peace is the word,, indeedflowerforyou

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Sun 11/13/11 05:27 PM
So msharmony are you still advocating hitting children?laugh laugh

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/14/11 09:11 AM

So msharmony are you still advocating hitting children?laugh laugh



the same way Im advocating imprisoning them (grounding them to their room)


laugh laugh laugh

do what works for the children in YOUR household and each household is different

in my family household, spanking that behind is what works,,,

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