Topic: Judge beats daughter
Seakolony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 06:51 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Thu 11/03/11 07:02 PM
I'm sorry I had to watch just so I could see what happened so i could debate it properly, and they were beating that child most of the video it was horrifying they busted into her room while it was playing for playing video game she was beaten 18 times with the belt as hard as he could and slapped with the hand once by her father....the mother condoned and by the DCSE that would be considered abuse of a child in most states both mental and physical.......Her father should be held accountable adult or child.....

willing2's photo
Thu 11/03/11 06:52 PM
I still say the parents are twisted and sick mo-fos who deserve turn-about.


no photo
Thu 11/03/11 06:53 PM

if its any consellation, the 'spanking' was about a minute and a half, the other six minutes was arranging the scene and alot of verbal chastising,,,

Ok, I'll have to take your word on that.


its much less extreme when you mute it, the verbal was actually more shocking than the lashes,,,


Starvation is much less extreme when we ignore it and stuff our faces with McDonalds.

Muted or not I saw a grown man beat a child with the intent to cause pain. A deaf person could see the strength in his lashes. I don't get your angle.

no photo
Thu 11/03/11 06:59 PM


Six reasons not to hit your child...

1. Hitting models hitting...
2. Hitting devalues the child...
3. Hitting devalues the parent...
4. Hitting may lead to more serious abuse...
5. Hitting does not improve behavior...
6. Hitting promotes anger......

Please don't hit your children......

:heart:



I was spanked, I dont go around hitting people.
I was very valued.
I value my parents highly.
I was never 'abused'.
I improved my behavior when I was spanked.
I Was not angry about being spanked.


Please discipline poor behavior responsibly and with a BALANCE of reward and aknowledgement for good behavior,,,flowerforyou

do what works with YOUR children and dont feel bullied into the one size fits all theories of the time,,,


You could be the exception to the rule....


msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:07 PM
not really, the video is over seven minutes long

he doesnt even enter the room until almost one minute

the first lash starts at 1:02

four lashes from 1:07-1:10

three lashes at 1:23-1:25

two lashes at 1:29-1:31

four lashes from 1:47-1:53

then nearly half a minute passes before mom gives her a lash at
2:22

dad comes back nearly FIFTY seconds later at 3:15 and gives her another lash


another lash at 3:23

another at 3:28


parents stand around another FIFTY seconds until
4:15 when he begins to verbally chastise the daughter

he leaves the room at 5:56

so, in a total video of 7:35 , from 1:02 to 3:28 (two minutes and 26 seconds was the duration of the spanking. with a minute and twenty seconds of idle time included in that)



just saying they didnt truly spank her for most of the video...

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:13 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 11/03/11 07:15 PM



Six reasons not to hit your child...

1. Hitting models hitting...
2. Hitting devalues the child...
3. Hitting devalues the parent...
4. Hitting may lead to more serious abuse...
5. Hitting does not improve behavior...
6. Hitting promotes anger......

Please don't hit your children......

:heart:



I was spanked, I dont go around hitting people.
I was very valued.
I value my parents highly.
I was never 'abused'.
I improved my behavior when I was spanked.
I Was not angry about being spanked.


Please discipline poor behavior responsibly and with a BALANCE of reward and aknowledgement for good behavior,,,flowerforyou

do what works with YOUR children and dont feel bullied into the one size fits all theories of the time,,,


You could be the exception to the rule....





I get that explanation about so many things,,,, yet in my fairly big, fairly diverse family, spread across the country

my immediate family and my upbringing are pretty much status quo,,

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:16 PM

Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


There's a differance between a spanking and a straight beating. If this guy wasn't a judge he would be cooked, and he should be.

Seakolony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:16 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Thu 11/03/11 07:18 PM

not really, the video is over seven minutes long

he doesnt even enter the room until almost one minute

the first lash starts at 1:02

four lashes from 1:07-1:10

three lashes at 1:23-1:25

two lashes at 1:29-1:31

four lashes from 1:47-1:53

then nearly half a minute passes before mom gives her a lash at
2:22

dad comes back nearly FIFTY seconds later at 3:15 and gives her another lash


another lash at 3:23

another at 3:28


parents stand around another FIFTY seconds until
4:15 when he begins to verbally chastise the daughter

he leaves the room at 5:56

so, in a total video of 7:35 , from 1:02 to 3:28 (two minutes and 26 seconds was the duration of the spanking. with a minute and twenty seconds of idle time included in that)



just saying they didnt truly spank her for most of the video...


Sorry i watched and listened and counted each belt lash including the mother's and the slap and there were 18 hits with the belt and a slap watch it and listen to it again and count yourself....it was absolutely abusive verbally and physically

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:17 PM



Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Are you serious? The language is what bothered you?


completely serious, if I mute it, just looks like a butt whooping of a child that refused to turn over so the butt could get the brunt it is built to be able to endure,,,


So hitting her in the legs and upper body multiple times is ok? Hmmmmmmmmmm. She should have been dramatic, that was straight child abuse.

no photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:19 PM

not really, the video is over seven minutes long

he doesnt even enter the room until almost one minute

the first lash starts at 1:02

four lashes from 1:07-1:10

three lashes at 1:23-1:25

two lashes at 1:29-1:31

four lashes from 1:47-1:53

then nearly half a minute passes before mom gives her a lash at
2:22

dad comes back nearly FIFTY seconds later at 3:15 and gives her another lash


another lash at 3:23

another at 3:28


parents stand around another FIFTY seconds until
4:15 when he begins to verbally chastise the daughter

he leaves the room at 5:56

so, in a total video of 7:35 , from 1:02 to 3:28 (two minutes and 26 seconds was the duration of the spanking. with a minute and twenty seconds of idle time included in that)



just saying they didnt truly spank her for most of the video...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3iKLz4oatY&feature=fvwrel

This video is only 42 seconds long.
The plane hits the tower at 0:19
The firey explosion goes on until 0:29

Just saying they only attacked the WTC for 10 seconds.


Now, I am truly sorry to use such an extreme example, it is pretty much Godwin's Law in effect lol, but this topic and your rationalisation of abuse has riled me up to this extent.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:19 PM







Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Are you serious? The language is what bothered you?


completely serious, if I mute it, just looks like a butt whooping of a child that refused to turn over so the butt could get the brunt it is built to be able to endure,,,


If you ignore the crying and yelling you can tell by the crack of that belt across her body that it hurts, I don't know how you were raised but I have a feeling this was normal for you. Personally I would shove hot peppers up his ***. Oh yeah and that C**t of a mothers too.


nope, the sound of a belt does not always reflect the force in which it is CONNECTING to something

I can swing and retract a belt in the air without hitting a thing and make the same noise

that butt whooping, if it was connecting, would have left her in sobs, but you notice her sobbing stops almost IMMEDIATELY after he leaves and there is no residual shortness of breath when she gets up to turn off her equipment

she was being dramatic for effect, because she had set up a camera

and , although I did get spanked, I wouldnt say it was the 'norm' because I Was not a hard headed child and I learned much quicker,,,


Oh ok, I'm glad your such an expert on this specific assault.



no, but I am a parent and I did have parents who disciplined.

I have been shown different discipline 'techniques' (using sound effects in place of actual pain, for instance) and I have tried and SEEN for myself that it works.


Oh, like psycological torture that you b%^ch about our troops do at G-Bay, but it's ok to do on a kid? whoa

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:19 PM


not really, the video is over seven minutes long

he doesnt even enter the room until almost one minute

the first lash starts at 1:02

four lashes from 1:07-1:10

three lashes at 1:23-1:25

two lashes at 1:29-1:31

four lashes from 1:47-1:53

then nearly half a minute passes before mom gives her a lash at
2:22

dad comes back nearly FIFTY seconds later at 3:15 and gives her another lash


it was verbally abusive, it was pretty standard for a spanking with a child that keeps moving away though



another lash at 3:23

another at 3:28


parents stand around another FIFTY seconds until
4:15 when he begins to verbally chastise the daughter

he leaves the room at 5:56

so, in a total video of 7:35 , from 1:02 to 3:28 (two minutes and 26 seconds was the duration of the spanking. with a minute and twenty seconds of idle time included in that)



just saying they didnt truly spank her for most of the video...


Sorry i watched and listened and counted each belt lash including the moter's and the slap and there were 18 hits with the belt and a slap watch it and listen to it again and count yourself....it was absolutely abusive verbally and physically



I think it was verbally abusive (the vulgarity took up much more of the video than the actual spanking or lashes)

I dont think it was physically abusive,,,

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:21 PM


not really, the video is over seven minutes long

he doesnt even enter the room until almost one minute

the first lash starts at 1:02

four lashes from 1:07-1:10

three lashes at 1:23-1:25

two lashes at 1:29-1:31

four lashes from 1:47-1:53

then nearly half a minute passes before mom gives her a lash at
2:22

dad comes back nearly FIFTY seconds later at 3:15 and gives her another lash


another lash at 3:23

another at 3:28


parents stand around another FIFTY seconds until
4:15 when he begins to verbally chastise the daughter

he leaves the room at 5:56

so, in a total video of 7:35 , from 1:02 to 3:28 (two minutes and 26 seconds was the duration of the spanking. with a minute and twenty seconds of idle time included in that)



just saying they didnt truly spank her for most of the video...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3iKLz4oatY&feature=fvwrel

This video is only 42 seconds long.
The plane hits the tower at 0:19
The firey explosion goes on until 0:29

Just saying they only attacked the WTC for 10 seconds.


Now, I am truly sorry to use such an extreme example, it is pretty much Godwin's Law in effect lol, but this topic and your rationalisation of abuse has riled me up to this extent.



except that spankings dont kill people
and the post I responded to didnt state that most of a video was spent with a plane hitting a tower

the post I was responding to said they beat her for MOST of the video,, which is simply not true

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:22 PM








Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Are you serious? The language is what bothered you?


completely serious, if I mute it, just looks like a butt whooping of a child that refused to turn over so the butt could get the brunt it is built to be able to endure,,,


If you ignore the crying and yelling you can tell by the crack of that belt across her body that it hurts, I don't know how you were raised but I have a feeling this was normal for you. Personally I would shove hot peppers up his ***. Oh yeah and that C**t of a mothers too.


nope, the sound of a belt does not always reflect the force in which it is CONNECTING to something

I can swing and retract a belt in the air without hitting a thing and make the same noise

that butt whooping, if it was connecting, would have left her in sobs, but you notice her sobbing stops almost IMMEDIATELY after he leaves and there is no residual shortness of breath when she gets up to turn off her equipment

she was being dramatic for effect, because she had set up a camera

and , although I did get spanked, I wouldnt say it was the 'norm' because I Was not a hard headed child and I learned much quicker,,,


Oh ok, I'm glad your such an expert on this specific assault.



no, but I am a parent and I did have parents who disciplined.

I have been shown different discipline 'techniques' (using sound effects in place of actual pain, for instance) and I have tried and SEEN for myself that it works.


Oh, like psycological torture that you b%^ch about our troops do at G-Bay, but it's ok to do on a kid? whoa


when did I say anything about psychological torture?

Lpdon's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:26 PM









Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Are you serious? The language is what bothered you?


completely serious, if I mute it, just looks like a butt whooping of a child that refused to turn over so the butt could get the brunt it is built to be able to endure,,,


If you ignore the crying and yelling you can tell by the crack of that belt across her body that it hurts, I don't know how you were raised but I have a feeling this was normal for you. Personally I would shove hot peppers up his ***. Oh yeah and that C**t of a mothers too.


nope, the sound of a belt does not always reflect the force in which it is CONNECTING to something

I can swing and retract a belt in the air without hitting a thing and make the same noise

that butt whooping, if it was connecting, would have left her in sobs, but you notice her sobbing stops almost IMMEDIATELY after he leaves and there is no residual shortness of breath when she gets up to turn off her equipment

she was being dramatic for effect, because she had set up a camera

and , although I did get spanked, I wouldnt say it was the 'norm' because I Was not a hard headed child and I learned much quicker,,,


Oh ok, I'm glad your such an expert on this specific assault.



no, but I am a parent and I did have parents who disciplined.

I have been shown different discipline 'techniques' (using sound effects in place of actual pain, for instance) and I have tried and SEEN for myself that it works.


Oh, like psycological torture that you b%^ch about our troops do at G-Bay, but it's ok to do on a kid? whoa


when did I say anything about psychological torture?


Torture is torture and well you have spoken not to kindly of it in the past be here you are advocating it.............

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:27 PM










Didnt approve of the language

otherwise, I found she was being quite dramatic for effect and take no issue with the parents spanking her.


Are you serious? The language is what bothered you?


completely serious, if I mute it, just looks like a butt whooping of a child that refused to turn over so the butt could get the brunt it is built to be able to endure,,,


If you ignore the crying and yelling you can tell by the crack of that belt across her body that it hurts, I don't know how you were raised but I have a feeling this was normal for you. Personally I would shove hot peppers up his ***. Oh yeah and that C**t of a mothers too.


nope, the sound of a belt does not always reflect the force in which it is CONNECTING to something

I can swing and retract a belt in the air without hitting a thing and make the same noise

that butt whooping, if it was connecting, would have left her in sobs, but you notice her sobbing stops almost IMMEDIATELY after he leaves and there is no residual shortness of breath when she gets up to turn off her equipment

she was being dramatic for effect, because she had set up a camera

and , although I did get spanked, I wouldnt say it was the 'norm' because I Was not a hard headed child and I learned much quicker,,,


Oh ok, I'm glad your such an expert on this specific assault.



no, but I am a parent and I did have parents who disciplined.

I have been shown different discipline 'techniques' (using sound effects in place of actual pain, for instance) and I have tried and SEEN for myself that it works.


Oh, like psycological torture that you b%^ch about our troops do at G-Bay, but it's ok to do on a kid? whoa


when did I say anything about psychological torture?


Torture is torture and well you have spoken not to kindly of it in the past be here you are advocating it.............



torture is torture,, well

can hardly argue with that,,,laugh laugh laugh


I dont approve of TORTURE, but what I feel is torture might not be what you feel is torture,,

Seakolony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:38 PM
There was nothing standard about the spanking in the video and by DCSE rules abusive.....

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:40 PM
which rules specifically would define it as abusive?

(other than verbally abusive)

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:49 PM
I looked it up myself,

the laws vary by state (big surprise)

some might consider it abusive and others might not,,

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 11/03/11 07:55 PM

I looked it up myself,

the laws vary by state (big surprise)

some might consider it abusive and others might not,,


Are you sleeping with this guy because you sure are defending himlaugh