Topic: Judge beats daughter
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Fri 11/04/11 09:56 AM




All this scum bum had to do was take her computer and cell phone away for a month. The girl obviously set up him knowing what he was going to do because he's done this before, this is how this criminal behaves on a regular basis and is why the daughter is saying he needs help. The guy is an idiot and something tells me the people of Aransus county Texas will be hiring a new judge.



only if they can prove he has violated his bench.

I dont believe it happened regularly because I Believe they would have sued for complete custody of the younger child if this was the case. I believe the mother would have been too scared to tell this 'danger' of a man NO (when he requested the belt in the video).

Instead, the younger daughter has continued to be with this 'danger' of a man just like the older daughter chose to do.


doesnt add up for me, I will just stay in the minority who believes he is innocent until something else is presented that PROVES he is guilty.


Don't have to answer Harmony, but your last post makes me curious...Just what would you consider proof, aside from medical report(s), that the man is guilty of physically abusing his daughter?

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Fri 11/04/11 10:08 AM





All this scum bum had to do was take her computer and cell phone away for a month. The girl obviously set up him knowing what he was going to do because he's done this before, this is how this criminal behaves on a regular basis and is why the daughter is saying he needs help. The guy is an idiot and something tells me the people of Aransus county Texas will be hiring a new judge.



only if they can prove he has violated his bench.

I dont believe it happened regularly because I Believe they would have sued for complete custody of the younger child if this was the case. I believe the mother would have been too scared to tell this 'danger' of a man NO (when he requested the belt in the video).

Instead, the younger daughter has continued to be with this 'danger' of a man just like the older daughter chose to do.


doesnt add up for me, I will just stay in the minority who believes he is innocent until something else is presented that PROVES he is guilty.


Don't have to answer Harmony, but your last post makes me curious...Just what would you consider proof, aside from medical report(s), that the man is guilty of physically abusing his daughter?


medical reports would be a nice start...

witnesses with nothing to gain

medical reports or accounts from the younger child

,, , I concede that 'proving' such an allegation after seven years has passed and you have continued to take money and support from a person as an 'adult'

is going to be as hard as proving rape, after seven years passed, with no police report, and you continue to have a relationship with the individual that benefits you,,,

harder than had the process been started as soon as the mother left,,,

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Fri 11/04/11 10:09 AM
and theses are all the same people who in other posts are crying about how the parents don't get involved anymore with there kids..when parents do get involved, these same type people always seem to know better than the parents...no wonder kids are so messed up these days, parents cannot be parents because all of you people always have something to say...

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Fri 11/04/11 10:10 AM

and theses are all the same people who in other posts are crying about how the parents don't get involved anymore with there kids..when parents do get involved, these same type people always seem to know better than the parents...no wonder kids are so messed up these days, parents cannot be parents because all of you people always have something to say...


I think people just get caught up in the cliches, the causes, and the drama mighty.

many people truly dont recognize the reality of BALANCE and EXTREMES, and they get convinced to tie everything into one category,,,

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Fri 11/04/11 10:12 AM

and theses are all the same people who in other posts are crying about how the parents don't get involved anymore with there kids..when parents do get involved, these same type people always seem to know better than the parents...no wonder kids are so messed up these days, parents cannot be parents because all of you people always have something to say...


I luvs ya Moe, but that is a ridiculous statement!flowerforyou

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Fri 11/04/11 10:33 AM


and theses are all the same people who in other posts are crying about how the parents don't get involved anymore with there kids..when parents do get involved, these same type people always seem to know better than the parents...no wonder kids are so messed up these days, parents cannot be parents because all of you people always have something to say...


I luvs ya Moe, but that is a ridiculous statement!flowerforyou


not really, people here only know what they saw on the video, nothing else...did anyone read the daughters take on this? i'm guessing no. it looked bad, but it is no one elses place to decide how a parent disciplines their kids. just because you do not believe in spankings does not equate for everyone else in the world. we are all different, and your values and beliefs may not be your neighbors values. who else is that girl going to learn morals and values from? the school system? TV? other teenagers? you? please tell me where anyone has a right to interfere with their family?

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Fri 11/04/11 10:35 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 11/04/11 10:36 AM
like every other topic, its just peoples opinions

we (in these threads)really have no impact upon how others choose to raise their own children anymore than we do on how they choose to conduct their sex lives,,,

but we can come here and share opinions,,,

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Fri 11/04/11 10:37 AM

like every other topic, its just peoples opinions

we (in these threads)really have no impact upon how others choose to raise their own children anymore than we do on how they choose to conduct their sex lives,,,

but we can come here and share opinions,,,


lol... share opinions... thats the right term...laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Fri 11/04/11 10:40 AM


like every other topic, its just peoples opinions

we (in these threads)really have no impact upon how others choose to raise their own children anymore than we do on how they choose to conduct their sex lives,,,

but we can come here and share opinions,,,


lol... share opinions... thats the right term...laugh laugh laugh laugh

Getting involved with your children and beating them are two different things.....

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Fri 11/04/11 10:44 AM



like every other topic, its just peoples opinions

we (in these threads)really have no impact upon how others choose to raise their own children anymore than we do on how they choose to conduct their sex lives,,,

but we can come here and share opinions,,,


lol... share opinions... thats the right term...laugh laugh laugh laugh

Getting involved with your children and beating them are two different things.....


i call it discipline...you call it beating...i guess it would be ok for her to grow up to be a lying, moraless, can't follow simple direction type woman that can never hold down a job so the government will support her and her 5 kids...some kids need discipline, some don't...

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Fri 11/04/11 10:49 AM



and theses are all the same people who in other posts are crying about how the parents don't get involved anymore with there kids..when parents do get involved, these same type people always seem to know better than the parents...no wonder kids are so messed up these days, parents cannot be parents because all of you people always have something to say...


I luvs ya Moe, but that is a ridiculous statement!flowerforyou


not really, people here only know what they saw on the video, nothing else...did anyone read the daughters take on this? i'm guessing no. it looked bad, but it is no one elses place to decide how a parent disciplines their kids. just because you do not believe in spankings does not equate for everyone else in the world. we are all different, and your values and beliefs may not be your neighbors values. who else is that girl going to learn morals and values from? the school system? TV? other teenagers? you? please tell me where anyone has a right to interfere with their family?


Everything you say is correct up to a point. Not good to assume, but we all do it..When I speak about this video, I use it only as a reference point to express my personal feelings and beliefs. I did not post the thread. My beliefs are that there is a vast difference between spanking on the butt with the palm of your hand and hitting a child with an object, any object...It doesn't matter to me if the the video is contrived, it is the act depicted in the video that I take issue with. IMO, spanking a child beyond formative years is counterproductive. I posted some of the reasons I feel this way earlier..

As far as interfering, if I was in public and saw a child being physically harmed, I would interfere and try to stop further harm to the child. That does not mean I am right or wrong, it just means that is what I would do. I would do it willingly and I would assume all responsibility for the intervention. In other words, I would not give one shite what the parent did to me because I interfered. And I would give less than one shite what onlookers thought of me.flowerforyou

mightymoe's photo
Fri 11/04/11 10:56 AM




and theses are all the same people who in other posts are crying about how the parents don't get involved anymore with there kids..when parents do get involved, these same type people always seem to know better than the parents...no wonder kids are so messed up these days, parents cannot be parents because all of you people always have something to say...


I luvs ya Moe, but that is a ridiculous statement!flowerforyou


not really, people here only know what they saw on the video, nothing else...did anyone read the daughters take on this? i'm guessing no. it looked bad, but it is no one elses place to decide how a parent disciplines their kids. just because you do not believe in spankings does not equate for everyone else in the world. we are all different, and your values and beliefs may not be your neighbors values. who else is that girl going to learn morals and values from? the school system? TV? other teenagers? you? please tell me where anyone has a right to interfere with their family?


Everything you say is correct up to a point. Not good to assume, but we all do it..When I speak about this video, I use it only as a reference point to express my personal feelings and beliefs. I did not post the thread. My beliefs are that there is a vast difference between spanking on the butt with the palm of your hand and hitting a child with an object, any object...It doesn't matter to me if the the video is contrived, it is the act depicted in the video that I take issue with. IMO, spanking a child beyond formative years is counterproductive. I posted some of the reasons I feel this way earlier..

As far as interfering, if I was in public and saw a child being physically harmed, I would interfere and try to stop further harm to the child. That does not mean I am right or wrong, it just means that is what I would do. I would do it willingly and I would assume all responsibility for the intervention. In other words, I would not give one shite what the parent did to me because I interfered. And I would give less than one shite what onlookers thought of me.flowerforyou


flowers very well said...

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Fri 11/04/11 11:19 AM
Edited by Seakolony on Fri 11/04/11 11:21 AM




like every other topic, its just peoples opinions

we (in these threads)really have no impact upon how others choose to raise their own children anymore than we do on how they choose to conduct their sex lives,,,

but we can come here and share opinions,,,


lol... share opinions... thats the right term...laugh laugh laugh laugh

Getting involved with your children and beating them are two different things.....


i call it discipline...you call it beating...i guess it would be ok for her to grow up to be a lying, moraless, can't follow simple direction type woman that can never hold down a job so the government will support her and her 5 kids...some kids need discipline, some don't...

Actually Moe i am not against parents discipling their children but to be struck 18 times with a belt at 16 I found to be overly excessive over something like the computer games and music.....I do not believe in spanking with a weapon and I believe that there should be guidlines......if I had seen it happening I also would have intervened but then again this is coming from a person that was dragged by their hair from bed punched hit with belts thrown into walls falling into a heater and leaving permanent scarring.....I still have scars over my body from the beatings....yet i was never taken to the hospital.....social services came to my house and I was threatened that I would never see family members that were special to me again if I said anything......not only did i suffer physical but mental and sexual abuse growing up......I found the video excessive....I did not feel the punishment fit the crime.....my son stole candy from the store I didnt beat him I took him back made him tell what he had done paid for the candy then made him throw it in the garbage and explained to him what happens to people that steal.....but I did not spank him or beat him I took away television time

You do realize she has cerebral palsy right?

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Sat 11/05/11 06:23 AM





like every other topic, its just peoples opinions

we (in these threads)really have no impact upon how others choose to raise their own children anymore than we do on how they choose to conduct their sex lives,,,

but we can come here and share opinions,,,


lol... share opinions... thats the right term...laugh laugh laugh laugh

Getting involved with your children and beating them are two different things.....


i call it discipline...you call it beating...i guess it would be ok for her to grow up to be a lying, moraless, can't follow simple direction type woman that can never hold down a job so the government will support her and her 5 kids...some kids need discipline, some don't...

Actually Moe i am not against parents discipling their children but to be struck 18 times with a belt at 16 I found to be overly excessive over something like the computer games and music.....I do not believe in spanking with a weapon and I believe that there should be guidlines......if I had seen it happening I also would have intervened but then again this is coming from a person that was dragged by their hair from bed punched hit with belts thrown into walls falling into a heater and leaving permanent scarring.....I still have scars over my body from the beatings....yet i was never taken to the hospital.....social services came to my house and I was threatened that I would never see family members that were special to me again if I said anything......not only did i suffer physical but mental and sexual abuse growing up......I found the video excessive....I did not feel the punishment fit the crime.....my son stole candy from the store I didnt beat him I took him back made him tell what he had done paid for the candy then made him throw it in the garbage and explained to him what happens to people that steal.....but I did not spank him or beat him I took away television time

You do realize she has cerebral palsy right?


Having cerebral palsy isn't even a valid reason NOT TO ....What is shown in the vid is wrong, it is physical abuse period....grumble

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Sat 11/05/11 08:09 AM
Yep.

Stop hitting your children people.

Stop trying to soft soap it by calling it "discipline" or "spanking."

It is assault and battery.

And they are children for crap sake.

There are other ways to discipline them.

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Sat 11/05/11 08:18 AM

Yep.

Stop hitting your children people.

Stop trying to soft soap it by calling it "discipline" or "spanking."

It is assault and battery.

And they are children for crap sake.

There are other ways to discipline them.


Morning Jeannie!!waving Right, they are kids! I just saw a follow up on this story on TV yesterday. The girl is now 23! She was talking about what happened and why she waited to show the vid. She made a lot of sense and came across as being very sincere...Long story short, the reason the judge will not face charges is because the statute of limitations has run out. It has been seven years since the assault was taped......

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Sat 11/05/11 08:31 AM


Yep.

Stop hitting your children people.

Stop trying to soft soap it by calling it "discipline" or "spanking."

It is assault and battery.

And they are children for crap sake.

There are other ways to discipline them.


Morning Jeannie!!waving Right, they are kids! I just saw a follow up on this story on TV yesterday. The girl is now 23! She was talking about what happened and why she waited to show the vid. She made a lot of sense and came across as being very sincere...Long story short, the reason the judge will not face charges is because the statute of limitations has run out. It has been seven years since the assault was taped......



The fact that she is an adult means that you can't claim "spanking" or "discipline" as an excuse in that case.

At age 24, its time to quit beating your offspring. She is an adult and she could legally have charged him with assault and battery and put him in jail.

I hope he lost his job.


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Sat 11/05/11 08:36 AM
If you really need to discipline your children today, try grounding them, and taking away their cell phones and computer privileges. Make them watch T.V without cable.

I assure you, they would rather take a quick beating than have to endure that. laugh laugh

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Sat 11/05/11 11:21 AM

Yep.

Stop hitting your children people.

Stop trying to soft soap it by calling it "discipline" or "spanking."

It is assault and battery.

And they are children for crap sake.

There are other ways to discipline them.



there are, and its up to the parent to know what works BEST for their children,,,

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Sat 11/05/11 11:21 AM



Yep.

Stop hitting your children people.

Stop trying to soft soap it by calling it "discipline" or "spanking."

It is assault and battery.

And they are children for crap sake.

There are other ways to discipline them.


Morning Jeannie!!waving Right, they are kids! I just saw a follow up on this story on TV yesterday. The girl is now 23! She was talking about what happened and why she waited to show the vid. She made a lot of sense and came across as being very sincere...Long story short, the reason the judge will not face charges is because the statute of limitations has run out. It has been seven years since the assault was taped......



The fact that she is an adult means that you can't claim "spanking" or "discipline" as an excuse in that case.

At age 24, its time to quit beating your offspring. She is an adult and she could legally have charged him with assault and battery and put him in jail.

I hope he lost his job.





she was 16 at the time it was taped