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Topic: How do you Men feel about women...
SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:04 AM


There 'are' other people reading this and I just happen to be one of them.

Cut and dried; Having never been gay "I" am a more feminine male. If there is anyone who does understand "how the other gender is wired WITH RESPECT and not from the judgment of a male superiority complex", it is my self.

I fully understand this. I also understand that we live in a time with an active resurgence and "witch hunt" that is out for the male species. Feminism and its constituents are accidentally mixing misandry with feminism. Because of the very argument that you just identified in regard to RESPECT of how women are wired speaks volumes of misandrist feminism.

One has to be very careful on both sides of the fence. Because, when people start identifying with a "lack of"respect" of one's gender and hard-wiring they are inadvertently "victimizing" themselves.

I am too subtle; and was raped at the hands of a woman.

You need to see that it happens on both sides of the fence and that it isn't one-sided.

Women should already know for themselves that they are superior to begin with. Empowerment comes from the roots upward. It does not come from 12 women getting together 25 years after the fact to address a sexual offender. Because THAT is what is creating the Feminist movement that we have today and it is becoming a misandrist movement.


Nice to hear you are reading, sorry to hear you interpret it that way.
I think I am one (of the few) who does see both sides of the fence because I took the time and effort to study it (based on Jungian psychology on men & woman).
I understand you interpret my postings that way, I've also been in a real bad place, I know what abuse is like. For me that was the very reason I developed an interest in this subject material and began perusing it.
flowerforyou

Riverspirit1111's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:04 AM



River, you're absolutely right. Thank you for your input! As you've stated there is also a way to completely "miss" said opportunities!

Estes Park? Brrrrrrrrrr!


You're welcome! I'm here until the end of May... I found a great way to travel through seasonal work that includes housing happy

And yes... Brrrrrr, lol. For the most part it's a dryer cold so isn't as bothersome as some places, but it's a very windy area so that makes it feel a lot colder.

You know, it's so funny that you say that! I live at 50 feet above sea-level and am close to the ocean. I have "moist" cold whereas where you and my Mother are is a "dry" cold and here's the difference:

Put a bottle of champagne in a bucket of ice
Put a bottle of champagne in a bottle of ice water...

See which one chills faster!


The one in ice water will. :thumbsup:

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:07 AM

Haha... Maybe I'll go for a hike, I'm getting the same kind of thoughts

Thanks Crystal, I enjoy having these discussions with you flowerforyou

Haha, have to go to Tai Chi class after dinner, that will deal with the thoughts, hihi.

And yes, I enjoy these exchanges with you too! It's not often that happens, and I sometimes really miss that. It's kind of big part of my life as my coaching is about this too. But that's still different as I then have to teach, coach, guide them. Now it's an exchange :)
So thank you for that!!
flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou

Riverspirit1111's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:14 AM


Haha... Maybe I'll go for a hike, I'm getting the same kind of thoughts

Thanks Crystal, I enjoy having these discussions with you flowerforyou

Haha, have to go to Tai Chi class after dinner, that will deal with the thoughts, hihi.

And yes, I enjoy these exchanges with you too! It's not often that happens, and I sometimes really miss that. It's kind of big part of my life as my coaching is about this too. But that's still different as I then have to teach, coach, guide them. Now it's an exchange :)
So thank you for that!!
flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou


flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou

StillWinning's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:33 AM



There 'are' other people reading this and I just happen to be one of them.

Cut and dried; Having never been gay "I" am a more feminine male. If there is anyone who does understand "how the other gender is wired WITH RESPECT and not from the judgment of a male superiority complex", it is my self.

I fully understand this. I also understand that we live in a time with an active resurgence and "witch hunt" that is out for the male species. Feminism and its constituents are accidentally mixing misandry with feminism. Because of the very argument that you just identified in regard to RESPECT of how women are wired speaks volumes of misandrist feminism.

One has to be very careful on both sides of the fence. Because, when people start identifying with a "lack of"respect" of one's gender and hard-wiring they are inadvertently "victimizing" themselves.

I am too subtle; and was raped at the hands of a woman.

You need to see that it happens on both sides of the fence and that it isn't one-sided.

Women should already know for themselves that they are superior to begin with. Empowerment comes from the roots upward. It does not come from 12 women getting together 25 years after the fact to address a sexual offender. Because THAT is what is creating the Feminist movement that we have today and it is becoming a misandrist movement.


Nice to hear you are reading, sorry to hear you interpret it that way.
I think I am one (of the few) who does see both sides of the fence because I took the time and effort to study it (based on Jungian psychology on men & woman).
I understand you interpret my postings that way, I've also been in a real bad place, I know what abuse is like. For me that was the very reason I developed an interest in this subject material and began perusing it.
flowerforyou


Total respect.
I need it known that my responses are constructive and not of trolling nature. It's just that when I see "blanket" statements coming out of either sex it's shame on YOU, not the establishment.

I too am familiar with Freud and Jung and the "letters" sessions between them. M. Scott Peck MD and John Grey; Master's and Johnson; Dr. Ruth Sharp and a cast of thousands. Read them. Saw them. Utilized what I've learned.

What I've learned is... the women I am up against all think like Crystal. I am in the San Francisco bay area and I am terrified of them all and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I am on Mingle and not out finding them in person. They're just too Feminist here.

Rock's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:42 AM



I would chase you, with a lasso


If you're chasing River, i get the royalties
on video distribution.

bigsmile




Ain’t talking about River, I would chase you with a slingshot and there would be no videos


Can we stream that ^ on youtube?

"Man runs through Canadian stock exchange,
while being chased by woman with slingshot."

It'd be an instant classic!

flowers

Riverspirit1111's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:42 AM




There 'are' other people reading this and I just happen to be one of them.

Cut and dried; Having never been gay "I" am a more feminine male. If there is anyone who does understand "how the other gender is wired WITH RESPECT and not from the judgment of a male superiority complex", it is my self.

I fully understand this. I also understand that we live in a time with an active resurgence and "witch hunt" that is out for the male species. Feminism and its constituents are accidentally mixing misandry with feminism. Because of the very argument that you just identified in regard to RESPECT of how women are wired speaks volumes of misandrist feminism.

One has to be very careful on both sides of the fence. Because, when people start identifying with a "lack of"respect" of one's gender and hard-wiring they are inadvertently "victimizing" themselves.

I am too subtle; and was raped at the hands of a woman.

You need to see that it happens on both sides of the fence and that it isn't one-sided.

Women should already know for themselves that they are superior to begin with. Empowerment comes from the roots upward. It does not come from 12 women getting together 25 years after the fact to address a sexual offender. Because THAT is what is creating the Feminist movement that we have today and it is becoming a misandrist movement.


Nice to hear you are reading, sorry to hear you interpret it that way.
I think I am one (of the few) who does see both sides of the fence because I took the time and effort to study it (based on Jungian psychology on men & woman).
I understand you interpret my postings that way, I've also been in a real bad place, I know what abuse is like. For me that was the very reason I developed an interest in this subject material and began perusing it.
flowerforyou




Total respect.
I need it known that my responses are constructive and not of trolling nature. It's just that when I see "blanket" statements coming out of either sex it's shame on YOU, not the establishment.

I too am familiar with Freud and Jung and the "letters" sessions between them. M. Scott Peck MD and John Grey; Master's and Johnson; Dr. Ruth Sharp and a cast of thousands. Read them. Saw them. Utilized what I've learned.

What I've learned is... the women I am up against all think like Crystal. I am in the San Francisco bay area and I am terrified of them all and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I am on Mingle and not out finding them in person. They're just too Feminist here.


First, I don't see Crystal as being feminist... not by the definition of what a feminist is in America, hahaha!

Anyways, I can relate to what you said Stone, I don't fit into that group either. I'm more of an evolved traditionist if there is such a thing, lol.

I believe women's lib has helped in a lot of ways... but it has also hurt us in so many ways... mostly when it comes to relationships with men and others as well.

I prefer to get in touch with those innate/primal instincts and go from there. smile2

I lived in the Florida Keys when I joined. The lifestyle of most who lived there wasn't my kind of thing, so that's how I ended up in Mingle. drinker

StillWinning's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:50 AM





There 'are' other people reading this and I just happen to be one of them.

Cut and dried; Having never been gay "I" am a more feminine male. If there is anyone who does understand "how the other gender is wired WITH RESPECT and not from the judgment of a male superiority complex", it is my self.

I fully understand this. I also understand that we live in a time with an active resurgence and "witch hunt" that is out for the male species. Feminism and its constituents are accidentally mixing misandry with feminism. Because of the very argument that you just identified in regard to RESPECT of how women are wired speaks volumes of misandrist feminism.

One has to be very careful on both sides of the fence. Because, when people start identifying with a "lack of"respect" of one's gender and hard-wiring they are inadvertently "victimizing" themselves.

I am too subtle; and was raped at the hands of a woman.

You need to see that it happens on both sides of the fence and that it isn't one-sided.

Women should already know for themselves that they are superior to begin with. Empowerment comes from the roots upward. It does not come from 12 women getting together 25 years after the fact to address a sexual offender. Because THAT is what is creating the Feminist movement that we have today and it is becoming a misandrist movement.


Nice to hear you are reading, sorry to hear you interpret it that way.
I think I am one (of the few) who does see both sides of the fence because I took the time and effort to study it (based on Jungian psychology on men & woman).
I understand you interpret my postings that way, I've also been in a real bad place, I know what abuse is like. For me that was the very reason I developed an interest in this subject material and began perusing it.
flowerforyou




Total respect.
I need it known that my responses are constructive and not of trolling nature. It's just that when I see "blanket" statements coming out of either sex it's shame on YOU, not the establishment.

I too am familiar with Freud and Jung and the "letters" sessions between them. M. Scott Peck MD and John Grey; Master's and Johnson; Dr. Ruth Sharp and a cast of thousands. Read them. Saw them. Utilized what I've learned.

What I've learned is... the women I am up against all think like Crystal. I am in the San Francisco bay area and I am terrified of them all and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I am on Mingle and not out finding them in person. They're just too Feminist here.


First, I don't see Crystal as being feminist... not by the definition of what a feminist is in America, hahaha!

Anyways, I can relate to what you said Stone, I don't fit into that group either. I'm more of an evolved traditionist if there is such a thing, lol.

I believe women's lib has helped in a lot of ways... but it has also hurt us in so many ways... mostly when it comes to relationships with men and others as well.

I prefer to get in touch with those innate/primal instincts and go from there. smile2

I lived in the Florida Keys when I joined. The lifestyle of most who lived there wasn't my kind of thing, so that's how I ended up in Mingle. drinker


I totally get it. I noticed too that Crystal is in New Zealand and that speaks volumes in itself. The Kiwi men are known just as the Aussie men are for being exactly as she has described. I only know because one of my long time female friends from high school described the men in both locations as "rough" to say the least.

I am enjoying this topic and thread though so I hope my input hasn't driven anybody over any cliffs?!


Riverspirit1111's photo
Tue 11/27/18 08:57 AM



I totally get it. I noticed too that Crystal is in New Zealand and that speaks volumes in itself. The Kiwi men are known just as the Aussie men are for being exactly as she has described. I only know because one of my long time female friends from high school described the men in both locations as "rough" to say the least.

I am enjoying this topic and thread though so I hope my input hasn't driven anybody over any cliffs?!




Oh heck no, and if it does too bad, haha!

I'm glad you joined in, thank you. It is an interesting subject and has turned into a more in depth conversation thanks to you and Crystal... I very much enjoy that and appreciate you showing up! smile2

And of course I appreciate the others too and the humor... I definitely need more humor in my life. smile2

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 11/27/18 09:27 AM

I totally get it. I noticed too that Crystal is in New Zealand


huh Crystal lives in Zeeland in the Netherlands.

Riverspirit1111's photo
Tue 11/27/18 09:58 AM


I totally get it. I noticed too that Crystal is in New Zealand


huh Crystal lives in Zeeland in the Netherlands.


Good catch David, I missed that!

JustBeHonest's photo
Tue 11/27/18 10:01 AM




I would chase you, with a lasso


If you're chasing River, i get the royalties
on video distribution.

bigsmile




Ain’t talking about River, I would chase you with a slingshot and there would be no videos


Can we stream that ^ on youtube?

Ok fine, YouTube it is! I’m a reasonable person.

"Man runs through Canadian stock exchange,
while being chased by woman with slingshot."

It'd be an instant classic!

flowers


StillWinning's photo
Tue 11/27/18 11:28 AM


I totally get it. I noticed too that Crystal is in New Zealand


huh Crystal lives in Zeeland in the Netherlands.

I missed that as well. Nice catch, Dave!

Mrmxb's photo
Tue 11/27/18 01:05 PM

Chasing after you?

Women chasing men came up in another thread, the opinion was that when women chase men they run the other way.

Innately, men are the hunters and women are the nurturers. I've heard some men say they adhere to this and others say it's 2018, time for women to do the chasing.

So what are your true thoughts on this. If a woman were to pursue you, how would you really feel about that? Would you run the other way or would you feel flattered and take a risk going against what feels natural?



"a woman is following a man."

how do men feel about this? what is the opinion of men on this subject?

I think this is the question you asked?
(if I don't get it wrong)

Riverspirit1111's photo
Tue 11/27/18 01:07 PM


Chasing after you?

Women chasing men came up in another thread, the opinion was that when women chase men they run the other way.

Innately, men are the hunters and women are the nurturers. I've heard some men say they adhere to this and others say it's 2018, time for women to do the chasing.

So what are your true thoughts on this. If a woman were to pursue you, how would you really feel about that? Would you run the other way or would you feel flattered and take a risk going against what feels natural?



"a woman is following a man."

how do men feel about this? what is the opinion of men on this subject?

I think this is the question you asked?
(if I don't get it wrong)



Yes Sahin, that is what I am asking.

If a woman likes you, are you okay with her asking you to go on a date, before you ask her?

Mrmxb's photo
Tue 11/27/18 01:21 PM
"Yes Sahin, that is what I am asking.

If a woman likes you, are you okay with her asking you to go on a date, before you ask her?"


woman loves man, it is certain.

who offered the first appointment? man? Female?
Β  I cannot say that I fully understand this part of the sentence. sorry.

I couldn't write my thoughts for it.

Riverspirit1111's photo
Tue 11/27/18 01:24 PM

"Yes Sahin, that is what I am asking.

If a woman likes you, are you okay with her asking you to go on a date, before you ask her?"


woman loves man, it is certain.

who offered the first appointment? man? Female?
Β  I cannot say that I fully understand this part of the sentence. sorry.

I couldn't write my thoughts for it.


In your culture, who does the pursuing in the beginning of a relationship?

When you first meet...

Does the man approach the woman first?

Or is it okay if the woman approaches the man first?

Hope that helps in understanding better smile2

Mrmxb's photo
Tue 11/27/18 01:56 PM
Edited by Mrmxb on Tue 11/27/18 02:02 PM
Thanks River for your comments.

men in general offer friendship to women. this situation was more obvious for 10-15 years ago or earlier.

When the lady approaches the male, the male understands. and without the lady's offer, the man is making the offer.

Men in the 25-35s offer more.
For the ages of 40 and above, this situation is moving away.

Nobody misses this opportunity when he finds someone to trust. so both men or women can offer. This is more evident for those over 40 years of age.

however, the proposals here are not a temporary relationship, but rather for a long-term relationship (marriage).

///

Above mentioned for existing table.

according to me;
it doesn't matter who proposes men or women if they have confidence in each other. because you should not miss this train. It would be a pity for the seven if the train escapes.

and those who love each other should say this to each other. they should definitely be proud. pride is only hurting. and then the train is up and running.

///

hopefully the translation has been good.

Riverspirit1111's photo
Tue 11/27/18 02:53 PM

Thanks River for your comments.

men in general offer friendship to women. this situation was more obvious for 10-15 years ago or earlier.

When the lady approaches the male, the male understands. and without the lady's offer, the man is making the offer.

Men in the 25-35s offer more.
For the ages of 40 and above, this situation is moving away.

Nobody misses this opportunity when he finds someone to trust. so both men or women can offer. This is more evident for those over 40 years of age.

however, the proposals here are not a temporary relationship, but rather for a long-term relationship (marriage).

///

Above mentioned for existing table.

according to me;
it doesn't matter who proposes men or women if they have confidence in each other. because you should not miss this train. It would be a pity for the seven if the train escapes.

and those who love each other should say this to each other. they should definitely be proud. pride is only hurting. and then the train is up and running.

///

hopefully the translation has been good.



Beautifully translated and well said Sahin smile2

Thank you for your comment and all the time you put into understanding flowerforyou

I agree with much of what you said. Those who feel love for each other should say so!

no photo
Tue 11/27/18 03:39 PM
for me chasing might be too strong a word, but i am definitely ok with her dumbing her interest in me down to blatant neanderthal. i actually had one once ask me when i was gonna ask her out.laugh because subtle for most guys is as subtle as a brick to you gurls.tongue2

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