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Topic: A Desperate Agenda
msharmony's photo
Fri 09/28/18 10:12 PM
Why cant I use it? The questions she answered did not show deception. I lie detector cannot detect lies without using 'baseline' or comparison questions, so Im not sure where that info comes from. I will take, however, doctors notes from years before and a passing lie detector test anyday over a calendar and the praises of ones friends and colleagues, when it comes to an event such as that being claimed.


Lpdon's photo
Fri 09/28/18 10:36 PM

Why cant I use it? The questions she answered did not show deception. I lie detector cannot detect lies without using 'baseline' or comparison questions, so Im not sure where that info comes from. I will take, however, doctors notes from years before and a passing lie detector test anyday over a calendar and the praises of ones friends and colleagues, when it comes to an event such as that being claimed.





Actually, this is something I do know about. I am a trained investigator and for a polygraph to even be remotely accurate you have to establish a baseline before you begin. Not to mention they are very easy to beat. In 20 years as an investigator I have NEVER hear of a polygraph given the way this was.


The doctors notes do not match her story, that was another red flag and the questions that she answered on the polygraph were completely different then her original statement.


Then when you have the top Sex Crimes prosecutor in the country calling BS you know its BS.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/28/18 11:00 PM
from the report

"the format of the test was the two question federal You Zone Comparison Test. as part of a 2011 meta-analysis study done by the AMERICAN POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION, The ZCT is one of the polygraph examinations considered valid based upon defined research protocol."

then further down the page

"the ZCT includes relevant questions" (the two questions often referred to in politics threads over this test), "comparison questions to be used in analysis, symptomatic questions, and neutral or irrelevant questions."


Easttowest72's photo
Sat 09/29/18 05:26 AM
If another supreme court judge retires, Trump needs to nominate a woman. It will be interesting to watch the Democrats accuse her of sexual misconduct. Democrats have crossed a line and just shameful at this point. I don't see how they couldn't be losing supporters.

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Sat 09/29/18 07:05 AM


Deny and deflect, deny and deflect, deny and deflect, deny and deflect ...





The FBI should do a 40 year background check on every member of Congress and every federal judge and see who's left standing!
I agree, these democrats with the way they carry themselves and do their jobs in a way that would turn most peoples stomachs and are proud to be the pile of dung they truly are. Yes I'm sure most of those scumbags would be ousted . But remember when it's all said and done you democrats will once again be pulling your hair out trying to plan your next dispicable attack of sleaziness to stop the Trump agenda. Nothing is working for you except to delay normal business from getting done. The people in this country aren't stupid and we see you democrats for what you are and you and your sleazy tactics will be shut down come November. What a great day that will be for our country and for real Americans.

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Sat 09/29/18 09:41 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Sat 09/29/18 09:43 AM
Who wants a Democrat as POTUS !! Hopefully they are loosing supporters with all the Mess they come up with. Nothing to help the Economy or increase jobs just propaganda to distrupt people's personal lives.

Good for NOTHING agendas.


Toodygirl5's photo
Sat 09/29/18 09:46 AM


Deny and deflect, deny and deflect, deny and deflect, deny and deflect ...







The FBI should do a 40 year background check on every member of Congress and every federal judge and see who's left standing!


Good Post ! :smile:

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Sat 09/29/18 10:28 AM
I'm getting desperate too

Someone, anyone, please make it all stop frustrated surprised

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Sat 09/29/18 10:52 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sat 09/29/18 11:16 AM
Republicans fear political fallout from Kavanaugh turmoil



"Whether or not Republicans ultimately confirm President Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee, some on the front lines of the GOP's midterm battlefield fear the party may have already lost".

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/republicans-fear-political-fallout-kavanaugh-turmoil-58170357

Could it be because of things like this? Where many GOP leaders tell half-truths and whole lies?

As a teen, Kavanaugh was never a legal drinker in Maryland

"Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has readily acknowledged that he often drank beer during his prep school days and made a point in his congressional testimony that seniors could buy beer legally in Maryland at the age of 18.

But Kavanaugh was never a legal drinker in that state when he was a high schooler — he was still 17 when that state’s drinking age was increased to 21 on July 1, 1982. Anyone who turned 18 after that date, including Kavanaugh’s classmates, also would have been unable to drink legally in the state.

http://apnews.com/e4a48c01f3bf4094b9faea33cd049729

Or maybe things like this"

Judge: Democrats in Congress can sue Trump over emoluments


"A federal district judge in Washington ruled Friday that a group of nearly 200 Democratic senators and representatives have legal standing to sue President Donald Trump to prove he violated the U.S. Constitution's emoluments provision banning the acceptance of gifts from foreign and domestic interests".

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/judge-democrats-congress-sue-trump-emoluments-58159942








msharmony's photo
Sat 09/29/18 11:55 AM
Charles, we should start calling you Akroyd "Just the facts, m'am, just the facts."

lol ... thanks for hanging in there.flowerforyou

QuintupleB's photo
Sat 09/29/18 02:03 PM

Republicans fear political fallout from Kavanaugh turmoil



"Whether or not Republicans ultimately confirm President Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee, some on the front lines of the GOP's midterm battlefield fear the party may have already lost".

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/republicans-fear-political-fallout-kavanaugh-turmoil-58170357

Could it be because of things like this? Where many GOP leaders tell half-truths and whole lies?

As a teen, Kavanaugh was never a legal drinker in Maryland


That means squat. Underage drinking happens all the time, unfortunately. btw: underage drinking is illegal. According the the rediscovered yearbooks, the yearbooks reflect girls (including Ford) as beer drinking boy and crazy. Even to the point of memorializing it in the yearbook. (with images that she appears in.)


"Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has readily acknowledged that he often drank beer during his prep school days and made a point in his congressional testimony that seniors could buy beer legally in Maryland at the age of 18.

But Kavanaugh was never a legal drinker in that state when he was a high schooler — he was still 17 when that state’s drinking age was increased to 21 on July 1, 1982. Anyone who turned 18 after that date, including Kavanaugh’s classmates, also would have been unable to drink legally in the state.

http://apnews.com/e4a48c01f3bf4094b9faea33cd049729

Or maybe things like this"

Judge: Democrats in Congress can sue Trump over emoluments


"A federal district judge in Washington ruled Friday that a group of nearly 200 Democratic senators and representatives have legal standing to sue President Donald Trump to prove he violated the U.S. Constitution's emoluments provision banning the acceptance of gifts from foreign and domestic interests".

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/judge-democrats-congress-sue-trump-emoluments-58159942



Let me guess... are you, yourself, not guilty of any type of underage drinking?

I betcha my last dollar that that judge is a card carrying Democrat, or one of the few Republicans that hate Trump too. I know that doesn't mean what he said doesn't have any basis, but it does mean that it could on those grounds.

The Democrats have it out for Trump since he announced he was actually running for office. Ford has accusations against her that she is an anti-Trump supporter/advocate... Sorry any explanation to prove otherwise is just lies... just like Clinton's "I did not have sex with that woman" statements.


btw: Many Democrats are getting tired of Democratic leadership thugary. Hence the hashtag #walkaway. That speaks volumes.

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/29/18 02:10 PM
It is really happening on both sides of the aisle, that some members are 'walking away'.


msharmony's photo
Sat 09/29/18 02:10 PM
It is really happening on both sides of the aisle, that some members are 'walking away'.


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Sat 09/29/18 02:23 PM


Frankly. I Don' t know why anyone would want to go thru these ridiculous hoops to become a supreme court judge.

The conduct shown to the last few should be enought to make anyone think twice about the position going forward

It is a embarrassment to our country.

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Sat 09/29/18 02:27 PM
if Ruth Bader Ginsberg croaks before 2020


rofl


msharmony's photo
Sat 09/29/18 02:28 PM
I think the hoops are well called for, for the mere fact of the GAIN to be had, having authority that is SUPREME over the lives of others, and a pay of a quarter mill a year FOR LIFE>

Im glad we have a SCOTUS in our judicial branch of the government.

I am not sure we can call anything 'embarassing' anymore with a straight face. There is just to much juvenile, bullying and insensitive speech becoming our 'norm', that the line of 'embarassing' has become at best a very jagged and hard to define one.



Easttowest72's photo
Sat 09/29/18 02:40 PM
They need to pass a law that slander doesn't mean anything in politics, only real criminal cases. That would put an end to all the b.s.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/29/18 02:44 PM

from the report

"the format of the test was the two question federal You Zone Comparison Test. as part of a 2011 meta-analysis study done by the AMERICAN POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION, The ZCT is one of the polygraph examinations considered valid based upon defined research protocol."

then further down the page

"the ZCT includes relevant questions" (the two questions often referred to in politics threads over this test), "comparison questions to be used in analysis, symptomatic questions, and neutral or irrelevant questions."





You interpret things to fit your agenda. I have been in this field for over twenty years I don't know ANYONE who would administer a polygraph test this way.

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/29/18 02:47 PM
No agenda.

Just putting what the ex FBI agent (Dont know how many years he has been doing polygraphs) put in the report, which read that he also asked questions for comparison to judge deception.


msharmony's photo
Sat 09/29/18 02:47 PM
No agenda.

Just putting what the ex FBI agent (Dont know how many years he has been doing polygraphs) put in the report, which read that he also asked questions for comparison to judge deception.


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